Wolfram, The earliest post I see that uses social capital is from me though I reference something that Allyson says. So if I were guessing which Buffista brought it up first, I'd say it was her.
But, as ita notes, not a concept unique to us.
Giles: I jump out of the circle, jump back in, and, and, shake my gourd. Buffy: Hey, I think I know this ritual. The ancient shamans were next called upon to do the Hokey-Pokey and to turn themselves around.
'Dirty Girls'
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Kat - Apr 14, 2005 2:43:06 pm PDT #5514 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:11 pm PDT #5515 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:22 pm PDT #5516 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Sure, blame me.
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 2:45:39 pm PDT #5517 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I AM NOT FRENCH
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:52:45 pm PDT #5518 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Well, because I don't forget all the things I like about Aimee when I'm talking to her. It's really no different than saying "this person has/doesn't have my respect." Except it is different because it acknowledges that "respect" is not an either/or, but something that comes in degrees.
Yeah, I know. I just....I don't know. I *know* social capital is real and valuable, especially in a community such as this. But sometimes, it feels...it sometimes feels like "person X has no social capital with me so I can say/post whatever I want as long as it's not too troll-y." I don't have specific incidents of this in mind and I don't know that it's ever happened to me and I know this isn't the true topic at hand (anymore qualifiers? No? Ok, I can close parantheses), but sometimes, it feels that way.
Shrug.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:53:00 pm PDT #5519 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I AM NOT FRENCH
But it is your fault, right?
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:53:34 pm PDT #5520 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I am going to call them Allyson Fries and Allyson Toast.
DavidS - Apr 14, 2005 2:56:36 pm PDT #5521 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
"person X has no social capital with me so I can say/post whatever I want as long as it's not too troll-y."
Yeah, but the word for that behavior is "rude." Treating people disrespectfully is still the same. I don't think social capital as an idea justifies rudeness. I think it describes the notion which Allyson has always promulgated which is that you cut slack for the people you know because you know where they're coming from. Their comments come with context. Newbie comments do not have a bank of context in which to judge them. That doesn't mean that we dismiss them out of hand.
Aims - Apr 14, 2005 2:59:58 pm PDT #5522 of 10289
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Yeah, but the word for that behavior is "rude." Treating people disrespectfully is still the same. I don't think social capital as an idea justifies rudeness.
I agree. I'm just saying sometimes it feels like that to me. This might be/is an "Aimee" thing.
I think it describes the notion which Allyson has always promulgated which is that you cut slack for the people you know because you know where they're coming from.
I agree. It's also useful to not cut them slack when they're are being an asshat.
Allyson - Apr 14, 2005 3:03:16 pm PDT #5523 of 10289
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I dunno, Aimee. I think I'd be a lot harder on ita or Kat or Kristen on the board if they pissed me off here than I would on some newbie. Because that would actually hurt, you know?
If someone I respect makes me feel like dying inside, the lash out is going to be far more meaningful, anyway.
I had to walk away from the keyboard the other day when tavella was pissing me off. I think I would have hung around and gone nuts if you had, because you actually mean something to me, where she doesn't.
YhissyfitsMV