On the other hand, that would require people who were only interested in Farscape to see a bunch of posts about other shows that they weren't interested in, which I sympathize with even if it probably wouldn't affect my vote.

I think making the Farscape thread a sci-fi TV show thread is better suited to it's nature, and provided it's sci-fi shows for the most part, I don't care what other shows get discussed there, whether I watch them or not.

For all the description of Due South as a HoYay thread, it's really not so much.

I think the Smallville thread is more of a HoYay thread than Due South, I think it's just seemed that the discussions in dS are of a different nature than the discussions in Farscape.

Either way, I'm not particularly attached to which shows are discussed where, it just seems that folding our non-ME specific show threads into logical groupings like Sci-Fi TV and HoYay TV is the best way to handle our TV discussion, and consolidate smaller volume threads into slightly broader threads, which Kristen has indicated will help.

Sci-Fi and HoYay are the two main groupings that seem to make sense. If we can find a third apporpriate category we might want to think about a third thread, but consolidating threads works best if you end up with fewer than you started. I don't see that a Reality TV thread would generate quite enough traffic, because there's only one or two reality shows we like, and they don't air simultaneously, and there doesn't seem to be quite enough discussion of any of the reality shows to warrant it's own thread.

If we do Sci-Fi and HoYay, we consolidate from three(?) threads down to two, and broaden the purpose of each enough to warrant a seperate thread while not making them so narrow that only a small handful of people will use them and post only sporadically.

Sci-Fi and HoYay are the two main groupings that seem to make sense.

I dunno - it feels really artificial to me. Why do we need two topics? Farscape's had eight posts in the last week. Due South is almost exclusively genre shows - not all sci-fi, to be sure, but the only non-fantastic show that's had any discussion recently that I can think of is a recent four-post excursion into CSI.

I think what we're discussing in Smallville (well, when there was discussion in Smallville) and Farscape and Due South is basically TV that's inspired fannish behavior, really. It's the fannishness that serves as the common thread.

Stargate fits with Due South and the other HoYAY shows because that's a large part of what is discussed, even though it's a science fiction show. Splintering it off and putting it with Farscape doesn't seem right.

Katie, that's what I was thinking too. Maybe it's a "Genre TV We Love" so we can combine Smallville, Due South and Farscape?

I dunno - it feels really artificial to me. Why do we need two topics? Farscape's had eight posts in the last week.

Well, the Farscape peeps really aren't about the HoYay (even though it sometimes comes up over there). If we broadened it to Sci-Fi, I think it would get more traffic. Discussion about Stargate would be suitable, I think, as would discussion of Highlander (another show discussed in dS).

But my problem is the discussion of Highlander, and sometimes Stargate, is really all about the HoYay, and while that's fine and fun, it doesn't really fit well with the Farscape style discussion and I don't want to deny the HoYay peeps a place to talk about that.

Those two categories don't seem artifical to me. Serious discussion of genre/fannish type shows is good, and discussion of HoYay is good, but they strike me as unmixy things. If I'm having a serious conversation about Stargate, it would be annoying to have to deal with talk of Jack and Daniel making a cute couple in that same discussion. Neither discussion is more legitimate than the other, but they deserve seperate spaces to take place.

Yes, they're all shows that inspire fannish behavior, but there are different ways to be a fan about a show, and creating seperate categories for the seperate types of fannishness only makes sense (well, to me anyway, and y'all know that I'm right all the time, right?)

Doesn't a Fannish TV thread have the same spoilage problems as a general TV thread?

Yeah, Kat, that's my personal headspace. It won't be any skin off my nose if we go another way, though.

Yes, they're all shows that inspire fannish behavior, but there are different ways to be a fan about a show

To be fair, we've done it with Buffy and, more notably, Angel. There have been side-by-side conversations where one was nothing but HoYay and the other was serious. We can handle that in one thread.

Right. I think that the main divider is whether the show is producing new episodes or not. . . because Due South and Highlander are not -- but nobody seems to mind spoilers about SG-1. (For whatever reason.)

Spoilers for The O.C. or Smallville maybe more problematic.

Doesn't a Fannish TV thread have the same spoilage problems as a general TV thread?

Yep. Hence a problem. I was working of Consuela's original suggestion for combining the three that was given here: Consuela "Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer" Aug 19, 2003 9:25:28 am PDT. The reality is we have all threads for all three of these shows. If we consolidate (and it seems that of the people we have heard from, there are many people who like that idea), is there a way to get to one thread from three?