Yeah, Kat, that's my personal headspace. It won't be any skin off my nose if we go another way, though.
Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
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Yes, they're all shows that inspire fannish behavior, but there are different ways to be a fan about a show
To be fair, we've done it with Buffy and, more notably, Angel. There have been side-by-side conversations where one was nothing but HoYay and the other was serious. We can handle that in one thread.
Right. I think that the main divider is whether the show is producing new episodes or not. . . because Due South and Highlander are not -- but nobody seems to mind spoilers about SG-1. (For whatever reason.)
Spoilers for The O.C. or Smallville maybe more problematic.
Doesn't a Fannish TV thread have the same spoilage problems as a general TV thread?
Yep. Hence a problem. I was working of Consuela's original suggestion for combining the three that was given here: Consuela "Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer" Aug 19, 2003 9:25:28 am PDT. The reality is we have all threads for all three of these shows. If we consolidate (and it seems that of the people we have heard from, there are many people who like that idea), is there a way to get to one thread from three?
Yes, they're all shows that inspire fannish behavior, but there are different ways to be a fan about a show, and creating seperate categories for the seperate types of fannishness only makes sense (well, to me anyway, and y'all know that I'm right all the time, right?)
No! No! Me! My definitions! Serious and HoYay discussions are totally mixy things!
Er, yeah, so there's the point of confusion, I guess. Again, I don't feel that strongly about it. Whatever's decided, I'm sure I'll settle in. I'm also sure that I'll merrily discuss HoYay if I'm in the mood in the Sci-Fi thread, though; my personal method of discussion for Farscape and Stargate and Highlander is all pretty much the same.
To be fair, we've done it with Buffy and, more notably, Angel.
Very true.
(and it seems that of the people we have heard from, there are many people who like that idea)...
Oh yeah. I'm coming at this from the Farscape angle, and like the idea of a Sci-Fi thread that keeps the tone I'm used to over there, but in the end I really don't care. If we decide to just put them all together in Fannish TV, I'll be okay with that too.
is there a way to get to one thread from three?
We could just cram them all together. But like Lyra Jane points out, Fannish TV has similar problems to a general TV thread. Not sure how to solve those problems.
I'll speak up here as the individual who campaigned to start the Farscape thread to begin with.
I have no problems with consolidation, although yes I can understand that someone who watches only Farscape and not DS, Smallville, SG-1 or Highlander might have a hard time wading through the thread to find the posts that interest them.
I don't see the big disjunction that Sean seems to: fannish analysis for me runs the spectrum from "hummina hummina" at John Crichton in leather or Methos/Duncan subtext to detailed critical discussion about how the entire tone of the show changed after Zhaan or Richie were killed. They're all genre shows with greater or lesser amounts of ongoing plot lines and evolving characterizations, and they inspire similar types of fannish responses.
That said, I don't know that it would make a big difference anyway in the short term, because the Farscape thread isn't getting a lot of traffic and probably won't until the show comes back in S5 or in daily reruns. Generally if someone stops by the DueSouth thread and says, "Hey, I have a Highlander question" everyone is happy to stop talking about the Ray wars and chat about the mechanics of a Quickening for a couple of dozen posts.
um. Anyway, that was rambling.
Thinking while typing here:
I have no problems with consolidation, although yes I can understand that someone who watches only Farscape and not DS, Smallville, SG-1 or Highlander might have a hard time wading through the thread to find the posts that interest them.
See, I only have an interest in Smallville, but would visit a combo thread as much as I would visit a single thread, which is to say not a huge amount, because Smallville doesn't get slammed with a lot of posts, even during new eps. I'm also a veteran skimmer so the thought of having to skip stuff doesn't phase me.
So I still would like a way to combine those three threads but seem stuck on how to do that. If they are combined, what is the thread exactly?
If they are combined, what is it?
I think "Fannish TV" works as a general label.
I think "Fannish TV" works as a general label.
Okay. Then what happens with spoiler bits? Should it matter? Does it matter? Smallville and Stargate are the only ones that get new episodes, I believe. So then what?