Most people is pretty quiet right about now. Me, I see a stiff -- one I didn't have to kill myself -- I just get, the urge to, you know, do stuff. Like work out, run around, maybe get some trim if there's a willin' woman about... not that I get flush from corpses or anything. I ain't crazy.

Jayne ,'The Message'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Deena - Jul 28, 2003 6:32:58 pm PDT #2733 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Why only ME related? I would think it would be all shows, period.


Trudy Booth - Jul 28, 2003 6:33:25 pm PDT #2734 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm pretty sure that Trudy was asking if the proposal only applied to *this* summer or if it would apply to all future changes to the regular cast that are announced at the beginning of summer. Wouldn't the answer be the second?

Nope. There has been considerable conversation that casting should be fair game period. Casting, official press releases, etc. If that's been discarded, cool.


Daisy Jane - Jul 28, 2003 6:36:18 pm PDT #2735 of 10289
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I thought this was always about the cast list announced in what is now the upfronts, but before we were calling "listed on the website, or in official press releases" I never thought it applied to anything else.


Frankenbuddha - Jul 28, 2003 6:39:17 pm PDT #2736 of 10289
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I thought this was always about the cast list announced in what is now the upfronts, but before we were calling "listed on the website, or in official press releases" I never thought it applied to anything else.

Yeah, how the cast is announced for the fall season - main (opening) credits cast only. Just a loosening of what is an official promo.


Burrell - Jul 28, 2003 6:40:27 pm PDT #2737 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Nope. There has been considerable conversation that casting should be fair game period. Casting, official press releases, etc. If that's been discarded, cool.

Actually, that was *never* being discussed AFAIK. Everyone has repeatedly said that mid-season casting changes, guest stars, etc, are still spoilers.


Jon B. - Jul 28, 2003 6:49:16 pm PDT #2738 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

To be fair to Trudy, the original proposal did not limit itself to the summer break, but there was a quick consensus that it should. For the last two days I haven''t seen anyone post assuming that the final wording would include mid-season stuff.


Jessica - Jul 28, 2003 6:50:36 pm PDT #2739 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There has been considerable conversation that casting should be fair game period. Casting, official press releases, etc. If that's been discarded, cool.

There has? When?


Katie M - Jul 28, 2003 7:35:36 pm PDT #2740 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

I don't think there's been much (if any) serious suggestion that casting in general shouldn't be treated as spoilers on the board anymore. If I had to make a wild guess - always dangerous - I'd guess that Trudy's remembering some of the wider conversation we had about whether or not casting spoilers ought to be considered spoilers on a more philosophical level. You know, the arguments about whether it's spoilery to know that ASH is only doing ten episodes or whatever, that kind of thing.


Burrell - Jul 28, 2003 7:40:12 pm PDT #2741 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

That's fine, but I think we need to be clear that casting spoilers in general are to remain casting spoilers. This proposal only covers changes to the regular cast that are officially announced over the summer hiatus.


DavidS - Jul 28, 2003 7:45:54 pm PDT #2742 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This proposal only covers changes to the regular cast that are officially announced over the summer hiatus.

That is my understanding. It is limited in scope. I would hazard that one reason for underlying resentment is that as a matter of courtesy the spoiled folks have conceded much much more territory already than the virgin-pure would be giving up within the scope of this proposal - but are treating as Custer's last stand.