They're mentioned, but not really to any resolution (except in the negative sense, that they didn't end up in the definition. And there's reference to another discussion that I haven't been able to track down since I can no longer get into those threads.

What might also be helpful (and I haven't come across yet) is whatever discussion resulted in the establishment of the Spoilers Lite threads.

What is clear is that outside of the stated spoiler policy where the broadcast only rule appears, we have precedent for dealing with this stuff in two ways. One is making an exception to the rule (Buffy's return, ASH's limited schedule), the other is designating an alternate place for discussion (Spoiled on Spike, Torez spoiler). I heartily wish we'd moved on one or the other of these options at the beginning of the summer - but I think most of us on both sides didn't think of them as options for some reason.

Note that I'm searching for these from an informational standpoint, not trying to shut anything down.

Brenda, are you doing your research here?

Nope, I was briefly able to get into the WX archives this afternoon.

If your download speed is good, everything should be there.

I don't see the Roll Your Own or Bureaucracy threads from WX. Am I missing them?

D'oh. Good point. I guess they're still open, so unarchived.

Don't mind me.

Bureaucracy and RYO are both on second threads though, so if we ever get the chance we should move the originals over.

brenda, thank you. And it would have been much easier if we'd just put our foot down, one way or another.

I heartily wish we'd moved on one or the other of these options at the beginning of the summer - but I think most of us on both sides didn't think of them as options for some reason

IIRC, the problem was that until "Chosen" aired, people were viewing it as a plot spoiler because the casting change implied that the character in question could not die in the finale. Which, given how flexible "death" is in the Buffyverse and in this instance, is a laugh, but that IS how people were talking about it.

By the time that was no longer an issue, everyone was used to treating the casting news as a spoiler. I agree we probably should have had this discussion in June, when passions on both sides were lower.

I'd like to see any ballot create a thread for whichever community looses out.

That way, all the kids get to play even if one group has a ghetto playground with two toys.