Jayne ,'The Message'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Er there are actually some proposed changes.
There was a proposed change to "officially published by the network".
Which I suggestion a futher change of:
"officially published by the network or production company".
This is a little broader, but I think still clear and unambigous.
officially published by the network or production company
I think it should be kept to just the network, so there's no ambiguity.
I also think we should be specific about "during the summer hiatus only."
Someone connected to ME or a network says, before the start of the season, "X is joining/leaving the show." That fact is a) publicized in some way (radio spot, tv promo, poster, etc.) or b) shows up in a professional publication (official website, TV Guide ad, article in the Albany Times Union). If this happens, it's okay to go ahead and talk about the fact that X is joining/leaving the show.
As I understand it: Production Company or Network announces, through press release (and this, BTW, I believe happened when the WB annouced their fall schedules, though I could Nilly newspaper articles from May to verify) or promotes through radio, tv, or web spots (by which I mean ads on major websites such as MSN, which I have seen), casting changes.
I would NOT included any newsletters sent by the networks, just press releases and promotional material.
Just wait ... Jim'll come back and be all "IN EVERY THREAD FUCKOS. EVEN IF IT'S JUST WORD FROM AUNT ETHEL IN SPRINGFIELD."
Aunt Ethel is never wrong.
Aunt Ethel is going to BE on Angel.
With her lover, Carrot Top.
Just wait ... Jim'll come back and be all "IN EVERY THREAD FUCKOS. EVEN IF IT'S JUST WORD FROM AUNT ETHEL IN SPRINGFIELD."
"What have you people done to my proposal???"
Sean
Discussion boards, warnerbros.com, fan sites, none of those would count. Interviews would not count, but ad copy, including quotes, would.
Just as quantifiable as "on air promo," and actually doesn't all that radically change the current policy or definition, as far as I can see.
Burrell
That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers
I feel that a straightforward reading of these lines ("advertising" = advertisements; official websites != fansites) leaves little to no room for misunderstanding.
Guys, you don't even agree NOW what "officially published by the network or production company" means. AKA, it is NOT obvious.
If the website is a kosher source for information Lorne's head would NOT have been a spoiler.
Or is it a kosher source for major casting information but not minor casting information? THAT would prove tricky.
Aunt Ethel is going to BE on Angel.
With her lover, Carrot Top.
So. Did. Not. Need. That. Image.
Well we have not done anything to it. Because it is Jim's proposal and we can only make suggestions. Writing a proposal under these circumstances is a little like having sex with an audience standing there shouting out helpful suggestions.