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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Typo Boy - Jul 25, 2003 1:35:15 pm PDT #2044 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well we have not done anything to it. Because it is Jim's proposal and we can only make suggestions. Writing a proposal under these circumstances is a little like having sex with an audience standing there shouting out helpful suggestions.


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 1:35:28 pm PDT #2045 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

So. Did. Not. Need. That. Image.

You don't know what Aunt Ethel looks like.


Jessica - Jul 25, 2003 1:35:37 pm PDT #2046 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

If the website is a kosher source for information Lorne's head would NOT have been a spoiler.

Lorne's head on a platter was not a change to the regular cast over the summer, and therefore WOULD have been a spoiler.


Katie M - Jul 25, 2003 1:36:08 pm PDT #2047 of 10289
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

If the website is a kosher source for information Lorne's head would NOT have been a spoiler.

The proposal is only about a) casting changes for b) regulars over c) the summer. (Well, the summer thing is an addition of Cindy's, but the first two are solid.) So because Lorne wasn't a regular at that time, and there was no casting change involved, it would still have been a spoiler.


Jessica - Jul 25, 2003 1:36:23 pm PDT #2048 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

You don't know what Aunt Ethel looks like.

If she's on top of Angel with Carrot Top, I don't need to.


Steph L. - Jul 25, 2003 1:38:44 pm PDT #2049 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If she's on top of Angel with Carrot Top, I don't need to.

When I said "on Angel" I meant the show.

Because Aunt Ethel with Carrot Top is much better than a threesome.


Jessica - Jul 25, 2003 1:39:58 pm PDT #2050 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

When I said "on Angel" I meant the show.

Oh sure, tell me that now.


Sean K - Jul 25, 2003 1:48:35 pm PDT #2051 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Guys, you don't even agree NOW what "officially published by the network or production company" means. AKA, it is NOT obvious.

Trudy, I appreciate your position on this, but the differences in our definitions are minor, and part of the discussion we are having right now is to hash out the specifics.

Most of the definitions presented by the people here have been very close to identical, so saying we "can't agree" and that the definition is "not obvious" is kind of blowing things out of proportion.


Trudy Booth - Jul 25, 2003 1:48:35 pm PDT #2052 of 10289
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Alright, not a spoiler.

Telling people they can discuss X from the website and not Y will prove tricky.


Typo Boy - Jul 25, 2003 1:49:59 pm PDT #2053 of 10289
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

And the disagreement is because the wording has not completely gelled. Different wordings suggest slightly different ranges of permissable sources.

Maybe we should stick to Jims orginal wording as far as source.

"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads. This includes cast additions or departures. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credit

Advertised by ... in press advertising or their official websites.

OK - that is absolutely unambiguous.

I would still change "Fox, the WB or ME" to the "The network broadcasting the show, or the production company creating and writing the show" - so that if Angel moves to HBO that is included, and if ME changes it's name to "Mutant Fluffy Bunnies" that is still covered.

And of course include that this applies only to betwen season spoilers.

So the propose change is pretty close to Cindy's"

"That major casting spoilers (to the main cast only, not recurring or guest), which are being advertised by Fox, the WB or ME the network broadcasting the show or the production company responsible for creating and writing the show in press advertising or their official website, are no longer spoilers, and should be discussed in the show threads. This includes cast additions or departures. The Main Cast are those characters who appear in the opening credit. Information is only considered non-spoiler if released at least one month prior to the season in which the casting change takes place.