You two carried me through that war. Now I need you to carry me just a little bit further. If you can.

Tracy ,'The Message'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Feb 22, 2024 6:18:40 am PST #28805 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Happy Birthday, Laura! Enjoy that mimosa!


bennett - Feb 22, 2024 6:23:45 am PST #28806 of 30000

One thing I read about dealing with parents with dementia - it's not like children who you're trying to teach good behavior or ethical treatment or something like that. Sometimes it's just best to lie to them. It's not like they're going to learn.

I must say, it goes against the grain but there it is.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 22, 2024 6:49:12 am PST #28807 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Happy Birthday Laura!


Laura - Feb 22, 2024 7:45:13 am PST #28808 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I had two mimosas!


brenda m - Feb 22, 2024 7:56:46 am PST #28809 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yay for birthday mimosas!


Laura - Feb 22, 2024 8:02:53 am PST #28810 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Of course, now I need a nap.


shrift - Feb 22, 2024 8:17:23 am PST #28811 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Happy birthday, Laura! Two mimosas on the beach and a nap sound amazing.


meara - Feb 22, 2024 8:24:00 am PST #28812 of 30000

Yay birthday mimosas! I had Oj with some sparkling water in it, which is….minosa-esque? (It is not my birthday)


shrift - Feb 22, 2024 8:36:03 am PST #28813 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I guess what I really need is an extra helping of grace so that I can extend some grace to him and get through this to whatever might help him.

Maybe we can scrape together some grace and push it through the intertubes for you. But also: jesus fucking christ.

Shrift, barging in with the past 2.5 wk experience with stubborn ass independent parents

sarameg, wow that sucks so hard. I very much appreciate your advice. I've bookmarked your post and will be taking down notes to share with my siblings

Also, if you want a pulse/blood oximeter monitor

Thank you! I don't know if the one my mom got him buzzes at a certain threshold, but it also syncs to an app and the results from last night were pretty dire. I'll ask if the monitor has any functionality like the one your brother found while we keep trying to get him into a sleep study as soon as possible.


Amy - Feb 22, 2024 9:30:08 am PST #28814 of 30000
Because books.

Happy birthday, Laura!

Feeling so much for shrift, and sarameg, and Teppy. I think no matter how old or together you are, caring for aging parents is just an emotional wallop. And so much harder in practical terms when your relationship with that parent was not great.