Definitely related.
Tracy: 'When you can't run, you crawl... and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that--' Zoe: 'You find someone to carry you.'
'The Message'
Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 5:43:48 pm PDT #25616 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 5:44:09 pm PDT #25617 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Well, my MiL is here. All week.
If she really wanted to be supportive, she would give me a fucking break.
I've seen her every month this year. For weeks at a time.
And I'd be good with seeing her once a year.
Even when she's trying to be nice she says something shitty.
erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 6:09:51 pm PDT #25618 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Aw, so sorry that you aren't consoling each other right now. All that stuff is so heavy, and you aren't gonna see it the same way. Just because you're very different. But being shitty to my bunky is not making her friends. Sending ma to both of you, actually.
erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 6:11:34 pm PDT #25619 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
Is there somebody you could ask to be your Dan Dority and tell folks you're "not receiving"?
DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:13:55 pm PDT #25620 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Aw, so sorry that you aren't consoling each other right now.
She's no consolation. She was actively shitty during the last weeks of Jacqueline's life. Narcissistically privileging her grief over helping/engaging with JZ, or supporting Matilda or me. Left in a screaming rage on the day my wife died. She's a trial and requires a fuck-ton of energy for me to deal with her.
She's humorless (self admitted!), judgmental, passive aggressive, sulking, skulking, sour, crabby. It sucks for me to be in her space for an hour much less a week.
DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:14:34 pm PDT #25621 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Is there somebody you could ask to be your Dan Dority and tell folks you're "not receiving"?
I'm working out the wording on dis-inviting her to Thanksgiving before she gets any ideas.
DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:21:52 pm PDT #25622 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
When she was trying to compliment me on the phone last week by saying, "I've looked through Jacqueline's photos as a child and she was always laughing. Then after the horrible incident when she was 14 she's not laughing in any pictures until she's married to you.
There are a lot of things I don't like about your marriage with Jacqueline but I want you to know that I appreciate that about you."
That was her idea of reaching out.
-t - Sep 24, 2023 6:24:20 pm PDT #25623 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I’m so sorry, Hec. I know how hard that is and I don’t know any helpful tips to bear up under it, but you’ve got my sympathy
sj - Sep 24, 2023 6:25:55 pm PDT #25624 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Hec, I’m sorry. She sounds like the opposite of Jacqueline. Does she have a good relationship with Matilda?
erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 6:28:15 pm PDT #25625 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!
I had a grandma like this, too.Maybe worse, if only slightly. When we were kids, she had a portrait taken...of herself. I learned the word "prostitute" because she dressed as one for her dancing school costume party.(I might make that up, but I swear I didn't!) I tell my mom she should be crazier, but she says it's bad enough. Make no mistake...although I can't even imagine the whole maternal grief thing? If there are sides, I'm totally on yours. Even if everything was great between, y'all you need some peace and backrub more than you need to host anyone.