I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sj - Sep 24, 2023 2:41:59 pm PDT #25613 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I love hearing about Buffistas spending time together!

I’m home from mom’s overstuffed with food and in trouble for making Francesca cry when I put a timer on to get ready to go after asking her to put her shoes on at least five times.


erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 3:19:03 pm PDT #25614 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

My mom just had the Look of Death(my brother can imitate it, being the most likely recipient.) When Ta-Nehesi Coates writes about The Look Of Not Playing, I wonder if it is the same face. (maybe not fully, but in intent, perhaps)


sj - Sep 24, 2023 5:40:02 pm PDT #25615 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I call it the Death Glare. ltc is quite good at it.


erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 5:43:48 pm PDT #25616 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Definitely related.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 5:44:09 pm PDT #25617 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, my MiL is here. All week.

If she really wanted to be supportive, she would give me a fucking break.

I've seen her every month this year. For weeks at a time.

And I'd be good with seeing her once a year.

Even when she's trying to be nice she says something shitty.


erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 6:09:51 pm PDT #25618 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Aw, so sorry that you aren't consoling each other right now. All that stuff is so heavy, and you aren't gonna see it the same way. Just because you're very different. But being shitty to my bunky is not making her friends. Sending ma to both of you, actually.


erikaj - Sep 24, 2023 6:11:34 pm PDT #25619 of 30000
Always Anti-fascist!

Is there somebody you could ask to be your Dan Dority and tell folks you're "not receiving"?


DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:13:55 pm PDT #25620 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Aw, so sorry that you aren't consoling each other right now.

She's no consolation. She was actively shitty during the last weeks of Jacqueline's life. Narcissistically privileging her grief over helping/engaging with JZ, or supporting Matilda or me. Left in a screaming rage on the day my wife died. She's a trial and requires a fuck-ton of energy for me to deal with her.

She's humorless (self admitted!), judgmental, passive aggressive, sulking, skulking, sour, crabby. It sucks for me to be in her space for an hour much less a week.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:14:34 pm PDT #25621 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Is there somebody you could ask to be your Dan Dority and tell folks you're "not receiving"?

I'm working out the wording on dis-inviting her to Thanksgiving before she gets any ideas.


DavidS - Sep 24, 2023 6:21:52 pm PDT #25622 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

When she was trying to compliment me on the phone last week by saying, "I've looked through Jacqueline's photos as a child and she was always laughing. Then after the horrible incident when she was 14 she's not laughing in any pictures until she's married to you.

There are a lot of things I don't like about your marriage with Jacqueline but I want you to know that I appreciate that about you."

That was her idea of reaching out.