As Willow goes, so goes my nation.

Oz ,'Selfless'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Oct 07, 2022 3:23:17 pm PDT #17889 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Great news about, Tim!


DavidS - Oct 07, 2022 3:26:45 pm PDT #17890 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And I'm going to post this separately.

So, Drew did commit suicide. He shot himself in the head in Golden Gate Park on Tuesday morning. His wife, Raquel, had asked for a divorce. He'd been dealing with the suicidal ideation for a long time. Five years ago he'd been hospitalized on suicide watch. He killed himself at the exact spot he'd told her he would kill himself. (Not something he was using as guilt ploy during the separation. Something he told her years ago during the earlier crisis.)

Leaves behind four kids, and a huge blast radius of emotional wreckage.


Sheryl - Oct 07, 2022 3:42:53 pm PDT #17891 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday JenP!


Laura - Oct 07, 2022 4:43:31 pm PDT #17892 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I would got.to Ren Faire JUST to stalk JZ as she performs.

I would totes join you for that.

Yay for Tim's surgical fix and impending release! I hope you are better able to rest tonight.

David, that is just so sad. The challenges in dealing with mental heath issues are just overwhelming. Also, losing someone to suicide is a totally different type of grief than a loss to accident or illness. Well, it is a loss to illness, but yeah, the grief is different.


DavidS - Oct 07, 2022 5:35:04 pm PDT #17893 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

the grief is different.

Very true. Especially for the children.


Calli - Oct 07, 2022 6:11:03 pm PDT #17894 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Happy birthday, JenP!

I’m glad the surgery is over with, Steph.


Steph L. - Oct 07, 2022 6:18:58 pm PDT #17895 of 30000
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

When he finally got up to his room at 7:30 p.m., he hadn't eaten anything since midnight last night, and called the food service to order dinner. You can get breakfast all day, so this is what he ordered for dinner: (1) egg & cheese breakfast burrito, (2) english muffin with butter and jam, (3) banana, (4) side order of green beans, and (5) strawberry shortcake with (6) strawberry ice cream. I wanted to stay long enough to see that order, but I was starving as well and came home for a bowl of granola and a banana. I told him to take a picture of his giant meal -- I hope he remembers (he's been off his ADD meds all week and his brain is all over the place).

I am relieved and happy and exhausted and I am going to collapse into bed as soon as I finish this granola and banana.


JenP - Oct 07, 2022 6:49:34 pm PDT #17896 of 30000

Great news about Tim; I hope he enjoyed his feast.

Thanks Sheryl and Calli!

David, that's so heartbreaking on every level. The unimaginable pain be must have carried and everyone who loved and lost him and the grief that they will carry now. So sorry.


-t - Oct 07, 2022 6:57:55 pm PDT #17897 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, David, that is so sad. Sometimes the demons win.


-t - Oct 07, 2022 7:02:21 pm PDT #17898 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Separately so as to be able to switch modes in my own mind: happy birthday JenP!

Also, Tim’s meal sounds very much like what I was wanting when I broke my fast on Wednesday (which was essentially All the Food definitely including an Everything Bagel and as many hydrating beverages as are legally allowed. I actually consumed a bit less than that, but it’s what I wanted and strawberry shortcake with strawberry ice cream would surely have helped)