There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


le nubian - Apr 22, 2011 2:42:30 pm PDT #4784 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

(disappointed that hookers and blow is not on Perkins' list)

oh well.


Lee - Apr 22, 2011 2:46:34 pm PDT #4785 of 30001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I thought that was a given.

At least in Vegas.


Jesse - Apr 22, 2011 2:53:08 pm PDT #4786 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

VEGAS!!!!

I think msbelle might be interested in yesterday's Ellen show, and the Paul Walker Cool Water commercial she showed. FYI.

I had a drink with my friend from work, and now I don't feel like doing all of my agenda items for the evening. At least I have to wrap my mother's birthday presents, but I doubt the bathroom or the clothes will get cleaned. Tomorrow night, I guess....


Steph L. - Apr 22, 2011 2:55:45 pm PDT #4787 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Now I want to find shibari classes, but with none of that icky sex stuff.

I don't know about LA, but here in my fair conservative city, there's a rope group that meets once a month where it's just a demo/educational thing. One guy who has years of experience with shibari leads it, and the topic changes every month, like chest harnesses, or suspension, or whatever. He'll explain/demo it, and then the attendees can practice it. But people have to stay clothed, and there's definitely no icky sex stuff.


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2011 3:15:30 pm PDT #4788 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

To be clear, I was just being facetious about "icky sex stuff." Personally, I think sex is quite cool.

A quick google of shibari and Los Angeles shows erotic stuff as far as I can tell. But I will keep an eye open.


-t - Apr 22, 2011 3:18:57 pm PDT #4789 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I went rummaging around in my boxes of wine (uh, that's boxes with bottles in them, not stacks of boxed wine) looking for something to go with tonight's dinner. I seem to be out of Sauvignon Blanc, which is what I was looking for, but I did find a 2003 Zinfandel Port that had been opened probably 4+years ago and sealed with a Vacuvin. So I brought it in to try a tiny glass. It's pretty darn good!

In short, Vacuvin works.


Jesse - Apr 22, 2011 3:20:12 pm PDT #4790 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Whatever, ita, we know you're anti sex.

Speaking of which, on the Fleshbot Porn for Straight Girls thing, I think a lot of mainstream straight porn is really unappealing, but not all of it, so a pointer to the stuff that's more interesting for women would be something I could get behind. In theory.


Jessica - Apr 22, 2011 3:21:45 pm PDT #4791 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Parent types, especially Jessica, have you all read Nutureshock?

No, but it's been on my TBR list forEVER. (I'm pretty sure I took it out from the library once and then returned it unread.)

Do you read Ask Moxie? For a while she was leading discussions on it one chapter at a time.


Steph L. - Apr 22, 2011 3:26:54 pm PDT #4792 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

To be clear, I was just being facetious about "icky sex stuff." Personally, I think sex is quite cool.

I figured. (Although I am not at all into sex in public spaces [inasmuch as a kink party falls into my definition of "public space"]. AT ALL. I mean, I won't pretend that what we do isn't about sexytimes, but I'm really reserved when it comes right down to it, and there's only so much I'm comfortable doing around other people, or seeing other people doing [which -- the "seeing other people doing," and my boundaries thereto -- has caused some friction when I wasn't interested in watching other people doing stuff (seriously -- some people were all, "Why are you so unfriendly?" and all I could do was just boggle at them in response; not wanting to witness your naked sexytimes does NOT make me unfriendly; it means I like my boundaries large and clothed)].)

(I am in awe of my nested parentheticals, above.)


§ ita § - Apr 22, 2011 3:28:40 pm PDT #4793 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

a pointer to the stuff that's more interesting for women would be something I could get behind

Do you think that the stuff usually featured on fleshbot is uninteresting to women and that the porn in these features is more interesting? I honestly can't tell the difference.

I get that the porn that the internet's made for is not me, but fleshbot...well, I'm not going to say that they're special or anything. Just that they're already vetting porn.

I also guess I don't know what chick porn is. I mean, what is "good" porn, but porn that women don't like?