The question is how do you define vanilla? Is this some 1950s idea of under-the-covers, nightgown-pulled-up, lights-off missionary (and of course heterosexual) sex only? Where does the line get drawn?
I don't give half a hump if you're innocent or not. So where does that put you?
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Amy - Apr 09, 2011 8:44:47 am PDT #2494 of 30001
Because books.
smonster - Apr 09, 2011 8:53:55 am PDT #2495 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
...I couldn't get past Peacock Angel. Really?
Steph L. - Apr 09, 2011 8:54:09 am PDT #2496 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I'm sure she doesn't count straight men and anal sex as vanilla, especially if he's on the receiving end.
The question is how do you define vanilla? Is this some 1950s idea of under-the-covers, nightgown-pulled-up, lights-off missionary (and of course heterosexual) sex only? Where does the line get drawn?
I think she must be defining it *very* narrowly.
§ ita § - Apr 09, 2011 8:54:52 am PDT #2497 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think she must be defining it *very* narrowly.
I'm sure it's sex where nothing cool happens.
Trudy Booth - Apr 09, 2011 8:57:56 am PDT #2498 of 30001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I don't think of anything anal being particularly "vanilla".
Steph L. - Apr 09, 2011 8:58:30 am PDT #2499 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I'm sure it's sex where nothing cool happens.
Lie back and think of quadratic equations.
Unless you dig quadratic equations. In which case, keep your kinky freaky math to yourself.
Steph L. - Apr 09, 2011 9:02:16 am PDT #2500 of 30001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
I don't think of anything anal being particularly "vanilla".
I think "vanilla" is increasingly hard to define. Because I was assuming she meant "vanilla" as "not incorporating one of the components of BDSM," where "BDSM" = (1) bondage/discipline; (2) dominance/submission; (3) sadism/masochism; and (4) fetishy stuff that doesn't quite fall under any of those umbrellas, like dudes into feet, or human ponies, etc.
Since I was reading "vanilla" in that light, I think it's entirely possible for a man to take it up the Khyber Pass without it ever falling under any of those categories.
I understand that a man receiving anal sex isn't *common* (AFAIK), but I'm not really willing to define "vanilla" as "common."
Amy - Apr 09, 2011 9:07:18 am PDT #2501 of 30001
Because books.
In my head, vanilla means "plain old regular sex," but what that means for me and what it means to anyone else could be completely different things.
I'm not really willing to define "vanilla" as "common."
Also this. Especially since human beings are involved. Very individual human beings, in all sorts of pairs and groups.
aurelia - Apr 09, 2011 9:08:03 am PDT #2502 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
This is very cool. [link] Lots of sound.
§ ita § - Apr 09, 2011 9:15:44 am PDT #2503 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think I'd categorise vanilla as vagina in penis sex (yup, straight only) with no role-playing or fetish-exercising of any sort. At least that's what I was thinking of as I read that piece. Oh, and no toys. Oral is foreplay, never the main event.
I don't really think most people have (only) vanilla sex.
As long as self-congratulatory pieces are being written in Jezebel about it, I don't think pegging is vanilla.