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DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 8:54:03 am PDT #7585 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Raq, I prefer to think of the casting from the actor's perspective.

They want more opportunities and to play a variety of roles, including cowardly villains.

That seems better than to try and control all the positive role models aspects.

It's sort of like the old complaint that minorities only got cast as aliens in science fiction series. Maybe so, and that's problematic, however from the actor's POV it's better to be able to play Worf and that character's story. Especially since a lot of the options for minority actors range from whore to gangster.


Aims - Apr 13, 2010 9:11:01 am PDT #7586 of 30000
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I mean, one way to look at it is "this kid wears a hoodie and magic athletic shoes, let's make him black!" And another way to look at it is "this kid's a satyr, and closer to nature...let's make him black!" And a third way to look at it is "this kid's a coward, let's make him black!"

Couldn't there also be a fourth way to look at it? Like, "Hi kid - which role do you want to play?" "This one." "Ok, audition for it." and then he does and he gets it?

That's not to say that sometimes there aren't nefarious things going on, but couldn't there also NOT be?


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:19:51 am PDT #7587 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe so, and that's problematic, however from the actor's POV it's better to be able to play Worf and that character's story.

Better to be able to play Worf than Picard? Or Crusher? Why?


Jessica - Apr 13, 2010 9:29:09 am PDT #7588 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

That's not to say that sometimes there aren't nefarious things going on, but couldn't there also NOT be?

I wouldn't necessarily say "nefarious" but my understanding is that there is almost ALWAYS a "we need a minority - which characters can we make the black guy?" meeting.


quester - Apr 13, 2010 9:29:15 am PDT #7589 of 30000
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Better to be able to play Worf than Picard? Or Crusher? Why?

Because Picard and Crusher were boring and Worf had a far richer character history?


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:33:36 am PDT #7590 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because Picard and Crusher were boring and Worf had a far richer character history?

Worf had one, very guttural, note. Crusher, yeah, boring, but I don't think she was more boring than Worf, save he got fight scenes.

Picard, OTOH, got screen time. He got to count lights, and play the flute. Data got to explore the nature of humanity. I hated Data, but he definitely had "stuff" to work with. Worf, not much of a challenge.


P.M. Marc - Apr 13, 2010 9:41:17 am PDT #7591 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

ITA ita.


Dana - Apr 13, 2010 9:43:05 am PDT #7592 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Same with Teal'c, on SG-1.


Glamcookie - Apr 13, 2010 9:52:29 am PDT #7593 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Aw, I loved Worf! Then again, I also loved Crusher. And since ita brought it up:

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:54:23 am PDT #7594 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Same with Teal'c, on SG-1.

And Ronon on SGA. And pretty much Teyla. Not that SGA gave anyone anything to do not named McKay. And that wasn't a proper character.

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!

That is a fuck-yeah moment.