It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


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§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:33:36 am PDT #7590 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Because Picard and Crusher were boring and Worf had a far richer character history?

Worf had one, very guttural, note. Crusher, yeah, boring, but I don't think she was more boring than Worf, save he got fight scenes.

Picard, OTOH, got screen time. He got to count lights, and play the flute. Data got to explore the nature of humanity. I hated Data, but he definitely had "stuff" to work with. Worf, not much of a challenge.


P.M. Marc - Apr 13, 2010 9:41:17 am PDT #7591 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

ITA ita.


Dana - Apr 13, 2010 9:43:05 am PDT #7592 of 30000
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Same with Teal'c, on SG-1.


Glamcookie - Apr 13, 2010 9:52:29 am PDT #7593 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Aw, I loved Worf! Then again, I also loved Crusher. And since ita brought it up:

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:54:23 am PDT #7594 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Same with Teal'c, on SG-1.

And Ronon on SGA. And pretty much Teyla. Not that SGA gave anyone anything to do not named McKay. And that wasn't a proper character.

THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!

That is a fuck-yeah moment.


DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 9:55:31 am PDT #7595 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Better to play Worf than a drug dealer. (Unless he's on The Wire.)

DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:59:31 am PDT #7596 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.

That was a good role. Worf was just another angry black Klingon, like most of them were in the new incarnation. I don't see anything special or challenging about him.

Better than a drug dealer doesn't mean good. There are still other stereotypes.


DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 10:01:19 am PDT #7597 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Better than a drug dealer doesn't mean good.

I'm only noting that if you're a black actor a large portion of the job opportunities you get will be as a street criminal.

So while grumpy black Klingon might seem cliche to you, at least it's different from street punk/pimp/dealer/gangsta.


Glamcookie - Apr 13, 2010 10:01:44 am PDT #7598 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.

Props and all, but I thought that guy was a terrible actor. Pretty as hell, but the acting was baaaad.


P.M. Marc - Apr 13, 2010 10:04:30 am PDT #7599 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Aww, I though AB was pure awesome!