Aw, I loved Worf! Then again, I also loved Crusher. And since ita brought it up:
THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!
Jeez, don't get all Movie of the Week. I was just too cheap to buy you a real present.
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Glamcookie - Apr 13, 2010 9:52:29 am PDT #7593 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:54:23 am PDT #7594 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Same with Teal'c, on SG-1.
And Ronon on SGA. And pretty much Teyla. Not that SGA gave anyone anything to do not named McKay. And that wasn't a proper character.
THERE ARE 4 LIGHTS!!!!
That is a fuck-yeah moment.
DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 9:55:31 am PDT #7595 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Better to play Worf than a drug dealer. (Unless he's on The Wire.)
DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.
§ ita § - Apr 13, 2010 9:59:31 am PDT #7596 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.
That was a good role. Worf was just another angry black Klingon, like most of them were in the new incarnation. I don't see anything special or challenging about him.
Better than a drug dealer doesn't mean good. There are still other stereotypes.
DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 10:01:19 am PDT #7597 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Better than a drug dealer doesn't mean good.
I'm only noting that if you're a black actor a large portion of the job opportunities you get will be as a street criminal.
So while grumpy black Klingon might seem cliche to you, at least it's different from street punk/pimp/dealer/gangsta.
Glamcookie - Apr 13, 2010 10:01:44 am PDT #7598 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
DS9 did manage to give us a black lead in the Star Trek franchise.
Props and all, but I thought that guy was a terrible actor. Pretty as hell, but the acting was baaaad.
P.M. Marc - Apr 13, 2010 10:04:30 am PDT #7599 of 30000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Aww, I though AB was pure awesome!
Frankenbuddha - Apr 13, 2010 10:04:42 am PDT #7600 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Props and all, but I thought that guy was a terrible actor. Pretty as hell, but the acting was baaaad.
Boggles
DavidS - Apr 13, 2010 10:04:54 am PDT #7601 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Props and all, but I thought that guy was a terrible actor. Pretty as hell, but the acting was baaaad.
Now, I'm imagining all the great black actors on The Wire in this role.
"Sheeeeee-ittt. Bitch, Odo can kiss my motherfuckin' ass."
Frankenbuddha - Apr 13, 2010 10:07:58 am PDT #7602 of 30000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I want to say that I think Worf had more interesting stuff to do on DS9, but then I remember all the Klingon political storylines they had going on TNG. Though those became as much Picard stories as anyone's.
I do think the most interesting thing Worf had to play was basically a direct rip on Spock (i.e. not really belonging in either world).