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le nubian - Jul 26, 2012 8:32:57 am PDT #22005 of 30000
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

yes, I think that Blake was in the Wayne Manor batcave. It is pretty far away from Wayne Manor physically, at least the driving entrance is. I can believe that the kids won't find it if the Manor entrance is sealed up.

BTW, I interpret the end as Blake is the new batman, Wayen is the new Alfred, and a young one from the orphanage is Robin.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 8:35:54 am PDT #22006 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's no way I can put Wayne into an Alfred role, and none of those kids are going to be a Robin to Blake's Batman either. The facts might deviate from comics canon, but I can't make the characters fit that. Alfred can easily walk from a room in the manor to the watery platform in the Batcave, so it's far in the same way it's a long time between day when the gang comes out of the stock exchange and night when the chase begins. As in...not very, except when it is.


Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2012 8:40:29 am PDT #22007 of 30000
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Who's Wayne ?


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 8:50:53 am PDT #22008 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bruce? Tallish guy, dark hair, sometimes has a deep voice?


Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2012 9:07:34 am PDT #22009 of 30000
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Right, but I don't understand how he could be Alfred when he's off jetsetting with Selina and pretending to be dead.


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 9:18:34 am PDT #22010 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not the logistics of it for me. I don't see where it fits in with his personality.


Vonnie K - Jul 26, 2012 10:03:07 am PDT #22011 of 30000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Extended trailer for the film adaptation of Cloud Atlas: [link]

That looks amazing. I haven't read the book yet -- I have a copy at home, but I keep picking it up and putting it down because it's too dense for what passes as my brain nowadays.


Steph L. - Jul 26, 2012 10:10:57 am PDT #22012 of 30000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It's not the logistics of it for me. I don't see where it fits in with his personality.

I have a harder time with the actual events of the movie, because I just don't believe, in terms of his personality, that Bruce would quit being Batman while he was still alive. I don't. Or -- I'm perfectly willing to entertain the possibility of a Dark Knight Returns scenario where he retires from the cape and the cowl but keeps training young vigilantes. Or -- and this is a long shot -- a Kingdom Come (not Kingdom Come, damn it, I can't remember -- was it in JSA where the "sequel" to Kingdom Come" was done?) scenario where he shacks up with Superman and Wonder Woman. I'm cool with a superthreesome.


Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2012 10:11:36 am PDT #22013 of 30000
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I'm going to get the audiobook from the library. It has a full cast!


§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 10:15:04 am PDT #22014 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can, weirdly, see that Batman doing it, without feeling like that's not one of my Batmen, if that makes sense. It's a pretty huge departure, as well as Alfred walking away during a crisis moment, even if it is for his own good, but I think both things work for that particular story arc.

But I would be less accepting in anything other than such a clear trilogy with the peaks and valleys that implies.