The more I think about it, the more Alfred walking away bugs me. Because Alfred wouldn't DO that. He's there for Bruce no matter what. Or am I forgetting something from comics canon that matches up?
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Atropa - Jul 26, 2012 10:17:01 am PDT #22015 of 30000
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Tom Scola - Jul 26, 2012 10:31:56 am PDT #22016 of 30000
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ita and Jilli, that pulled me out of the film, too. Alfred just doesn’t do that!
§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 10:39:34 am PDT #22017 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I guess the point is (and it took me till the second viewing to try and accept it for what it is) that it's Just That Bad. Yes, it's a thing we consider inconceivable--that's how serious he is.
I would be more surprised to see it in the comics, but I'm not sure how I'd take Alfred lying about Rachel there too. I'm torn on that also.
Strega - Jul 26, 2012 12:57:55 pm PDT #22018 of 30000
That is straight from the comics. The only difference is the timing: in the comics, Alfred quit when Bruce decided to return to Gotham after his spine was handwaved back together.
Polter-Cow - Jul 26, 2012 1:16:42 pm PDT #22019 of 30000
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Gris - Jul 26, 2012 2:41:11 pm PDT #22020 of 30000
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I love that moment. Never read Nightfall in comics but the novelization is surprisingly awesome.
Juliebird - Jul 26, 2012 4:01:43 pm PDT #22021 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I think the one thing that I didn't get/catch was the leaving something in Bruce's will for Blake. I was confounded by the scene where Blake picked up the duffel bag, and then of course where the heck the coordinates came from. I was either overwhelmed with feelings or an overly-loud score at the time.
§ ita § - Jul 26, 2012 4:11:11 pm PDT #22022 of 30000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He was picking it up from the final settlement of the Wayne estate. In the bag was a GPS, and apparently he needed that to guide him back to the Manor, but this time via backdoor into the secret lair...where he would begin to be a pretty inexperienced cop who'd promptly get beat down by a whole bunch of very pissed off bad guys with a grudge against Batman. After spending so much time stressing Bruce's training...how does that make sense?
Harrumph.
Juliebird - Jul 26, 2012 4:18:07 pm PDT #22023 of 30000
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
But finding the bat lair doesn't mean that Blake will immediately begin picking off bad guys vigilante style. I saw it as, firstly, that he was geeking out over seeing his hero's lair. Secondly as Blake starting to figure out what he wanted to do with that knowledge and access, and thirdly, when he'd gotten all trained up, whether he'd become Batman or his own person (Nightwing/Robin).
Jesse - Jul 26, 2012 4:21:02 pm PDT #22024 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Also, Bruce in Paris doesn't mean he's hung up the cowl for good, right? I mean, he couldn't leave Gotham City forever?????