I think he wants it that way.

There's a clip on Tumblr now, and I'm honestly too chicken to watch it. Some stuff is watch from the hall even for me, it turns out.

Some stuff is watch from the hall even for me, it turns out.

As someone who has never shipped Dean/Castiel it's felt like the tsunami of emotion and tweets and messages and fanfics and whatnot have exploded, and I feel more battered by it than usual. I know the answer is to just skim on by, but my God the signal-to-noise ratio is immense.

This looks like so much fun on its own, but how awesome would it be if you could get Sam and Dean on a cover?

my God the signal-to-noise ratio is immense

Trust me, shipping them is not a cure. While the canon is an interesting relationship, there are pills that chill that people need to take on the topic. But I really do need to finish reading the post explaining why canon D/C would be a brilliant financial move for the network.

Because...what? I think a queer lead (existing more than a new lead) would be brilliant--I don't care who they're sleeping with (well, as long as they're not related), and I think many of the arguments against said are quite patently coming from homophobic places--none of the ones I've seen rebutted at least (since no one is making them to me, that's my filter) have anything to do with Castiel's character, or Dean's past more than "But he likes sex with women!".

I don't think the right response to that is "this is Nielsen gold". It's more like "if you can't come up with a valid character-related reason against it you just sound like a prejudiced dipshit--reboot and reframe."

how awesome would it be if you could get Sam and Dean on a cover?

That might have been what the publishing company did for the Carver Edlund line, now that I look at it.

There's a clip on Tumblr now, and I'm honestly too chicken to watch it. Some stuff is watch from the hall even for me, it turns out.

I was THERE and it was watch from the hall for me. I fled the panel halfway through, because apparently I have 4th wall issues when fans repeatedly ask an actor about fandom ships and fic. I mean, props to Misha for dealing with it in a hilarious manner, but I hit a point where I couldn't sit in the panel and listen to the crazy fans at the mic any longer.

Oh noes. I was worried you were there. Not that I feared for your safety or delicate sensibilities, just that the motts seemed to abound. I'd have fled quickly.

I wonder if that's exhausting and boring and they wouldn't rather be asked about, say, actual real work they have done or will do? I don't know why this is the season that people have decided it's going to happen, but even assuming it is--they're not going to speak about it beforehand. That's going to be carefully handled news.

Not that I'm thinking it will happen, let's be clear. Just that it's a conversation with nowhere to go in any event.

So I clicked through on that post where it's posited that D/C would be good for ratings. Among other things, it says that 18-34 women is the CW's target demographic, but I can't find a source for that. It wouldn't be the biggest surprise, but still, I'd like cites--anyone know where I could find them? I'm at the second part of the argument and she has lost me. Perhaps it's too early in the morning for all this?

Does this:

LGBT characters and plots were woven into some of the most popular broadcast primetime programs last season, and advertisers were investing their budgets there too. Motion pictures and department stores were the top categories that drove advertising on LGBT-inclusive programming, devoting 28.3 percent and 27.6 percent of their ad dollars, respectively.

Imply this:

Consumers are tuning into more LGBTQ-friendly television, and the advertisers are following after them. Supply needs to catch up to demand. Therefore more shows are going to feature LGBTQ characters, and that’s being reflected with the amount of regularly occurring gay characters reaching all-time highs.

I'm not seeing where people are tuning in because of queer content, where adding more queer content would increase ratings, where it's been proven that there isn't a gay ceiling that the next gay couple wouldn't hit and then ratings would dive....I'm just not seeing causation at all.

But then again, she also holds the following position (I'm not even calling it an opinion, because she doesn't):

the one show that has been building the subtext of its bi character since season 1 (and pretty much outed him in 8x13). I would look at that same-sex couple who has more than four seasons of subtextual buildup

So, yeah. One thing those posts are missing is evidence. The other thing is logic.

They do have some nice infographics, however. Taken from another source.

I was THERE and it was watch from the hall for me. I fled the panel halfway through, because apparently I have 4th wall issues when fans repeatedly ask an actor about fandom ships and fic. I mean, props to Misha for dealing with it in a hilarious manner, but I hit a point where I couldn't sit in the panel and listen to the crazy fans at the mic any longer.

Dear Lord, now I'm having flashbacks to the Nashville SPN con where people were getting up to the mics to ask cast members Harry Potter questions like what house their characters would be in.

I think I might have to avoid all news of all cons from now on. It's a clusterfuck of shamelessness. And sadness--good lord, the sadness. If this

this may be the realest, sweetest hug i have ever gotten in my entire life;;

Applies to a photo op, you need to look at your life, look at your choices. This should not be coming from a paid stranger. Who does not know your name.

Never mind some furore which seems to have been set off because Misha doesn't know what "lip service" means...just setting too much stock in the every word of fucking actors, man. I think the guy is charming and shit, but let's not make him the next pope or anything--he's NOT IMPORTANT. NONE OF THEM ARE. THIS SHOW IS NOT.

So, what you're saying is it is a VERY GOOD THING I wasn't there.

Also, how does he look in person?