The plan continued apace despite Dean being dead and in Hell for 40 subjective years, so I assume raising Sam from the dead would have been no biggie. Maybe the angels would have resurrected him too for the showcase showdown?

Death: Not an ending, just a change in direction.

But Dean needed to go to Hell, otherwise no Righteous Man. It's not a despite, it's a because.

Why put Sam in a duel to the death if you need him to be the one that lives?

For one, it got Dean in the position of taking over as The Righteous Man after John had stonewalled them for a century of hell-time.

Absolutely--but Jake was the one who won the Boy King mantle, so what was the point of all that? Who would have been his Righteous Man? His sister? They're related to Abel and Cain too? Then why wasn't Nick related to them, instead of the Winchesters (I just heard Kripke confirmed the link)--but that makes it grey canon at best? They should have been a better bloodline.

I just had the most random trivial thought:

If Cas was looking for a good Cupid's Bow, he should have stolen Dean's lips. They're classic.

Also, that's gross.

Some random feelings from the longfic I just tastelessly devoured:

• Tag your hate. Making Mary worse than John is technically interesting, but meanly executed. And why is Lisa evil (a witch fucking Crowley and Alistair) when Samuel Campbell is on the side of good?
• Count your OCs' screen time. So many new characters when you could easily replace half of them with canon characters. You're not as interesting as you thought.
• Spell, even grammar check. Radical, huh?

Just for those who might have missed it, Happy Supernatural Holidays! from the set.

Thanks, Beverly.

If you guys were going to describe the hair colour of Sam, Dean, and Cas (deliberately not asking about the actors, because we know it doesn't have to carry over)?

To me, they're light brown, brown, and dark reddish brown (he needs similes).

Similarly with their eyes--green like the sun coming through the leaves, hazel (that's what green/brown is, right?), and crystal sea blue (I know, it sounds cheesy, but they look like such a different blue to me, and trust me, I keep looking).

Also about Dean's eyes--our lids cast a shadow on our eyeballs, and the way he's configured, his brows often leave a shadow that we can see hitting *under* his cornea, and it gives a delicate super 3D effect. Which is a bitch for me to draw...

SHIT! I just ended the thread! Go to B'cracy quickly and let's choose a name...

The road so far continues in "Supernatural 3: Family don't end with blood"