Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Typo Boy - Feb 27, 2013 8:41:45 pm PST #27772 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Also a minor point: Naming the Episode "Remember the Titans" was genius. It made me expect a comedy episode though. But Show often uses puns in the names of serious episodes, so that was totally on me.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2013 6:31:09 am PST #27773 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why did that make you think comedy? The film "Remember The Titans" was a sports flick, wasn't it?


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2013 7:45:23 am PST #27774 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just realised properly that when I click on a tumblr and the owner is 19, they were 11 when show started.

I'm okay with 19 year olds--I like them more than most people my age, but the concept of 11 back then freaks me out...


P.M. Marc - Feb 28, 2013 9:16:51 am PST #27775 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The show is only a few months older than my child.

I started watching right as S2 started.

I have been in this fandom for most of her life.


Amy - Feb 28, 2013 9:21:01 am PST #27776 of 30002
Because books.

I just realised properly that when I click on a tumblr and the owner is 19, they were 11 when show started.

Oh wow. That's a little freaky.

Sara probably doesn't remember life before Mommy talking about Sam and Dean, come to think of it.

Dan Loflin favorited one of my tweets and replied to another. May I have my Shameless Fan Girl Merit Badge now?


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2013 9:32:40 am PST #27777 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have done nothing of note with the last ten or so years of my life, so there's nothing to clock that by. Ho hum.

I didn't even know you could favourite tweets--I'm so unlooped. My fangirl activities seem to be exclusively arrayed around defending John. John who I think is an alcoholic who used beatings to discipline his kids, but hey! I don't think either or both of those mean you have to be a bad person, father, and especially character. And I don't think the canon or the boys think so either. Amy, you take the front line, and I'll fan here in the back.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2013 9:40:40 am PST #27778 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh--sis has finished S1. Says she's not emotionally invested, and she insists the show believes in Catholicism if holy water works. I find myself arguing that the demons give it power, but that's with the retconned-away knowledge that god and angels weren't a factor at this time, so it's totally irrelevant, and really only headcanon anyway.

This is her take:

Very clear arc for both characters. Not necessarily a huge arc, but a clear one. Dean lets down his guard with his emotions, stands up to Daddy, reinforces his protective instinct, but maybe allows it to be chipped lickle bit and also becomes a little scared by it, (this part is not an arc, just a description: will lie to his nearests and dearests if he feels it will save their lives [viz Colt]).

Sam nears the end of his grieving process, accepts his destiny (well, not completely) as hunter, resolves major issues with Daddy. Not too sure how to describe the evolution of his relationship with Dean, I now realise. Hmm. The relationship is more equal and more honest than it was at the beginning, but I don't know how Sam perceived it at the beginning, so I can't speak to the evolution from his point of view. Yup, have no baseline.
I don't know if this is me with a faulty memory or Jensen's superior acting, but my blanks are coming when I try to get into Sam's head.

At the end of the day, family is the most important thing here. You don't shoot your father cos you love your family, and then that leads to the family members all together chasing the demon ad infinitum. So the family is restored and endures. This hunt for the demon is riven with ambivalence. As Dean has said before, what happens after we kill it? I'm not sure at this point that Sam could go to law school. But what could they do? How do you build a life without a demon in the middle of it? They don't know what that looks like. Sam was the closest to doing this, but could he now? The demon is what is keeping the family together. They need it.

I'm still not emotionally involved, but interested to see what happens next for sure.

I still feel like I need to know more about the demon's capabilities - what it can and cannot do. Cos as you've noticed, I question how it can do some things and not others.

S02 locked and loaded.

I have given her what I think is demons 101 (with allowing for more eyes coming up) and a spoiler-free assessment of Sam's head at this time.


Amy - Feb 28, 2013 9:49:31 am PST #27779 of 30002
Because books.

Wow, she's got a lot coming.

Although if she's not emotionally invested after In My Time of Dying ...


SuziQ - Feb 28, 2013 10:20:17 am PST #27780 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

The show is only a few months older than my child.

Unpossible. Then again, last time I saw Tickybox was last week, not 5 (or was it 6) years ago.


§ ita § - Feb 28, 2013 10:27:16 am PST #27781 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am sitting on my hands so much--especially when John whispers to Dean and Dean looks so quizzical and sad and...my poor little babies....

She's adecently easy to tears when it comes to some triggers, and I'm curious to see if Show ever hits any of them. I think the car crash didn't get me the first time round, but it does ever second rewatch. I clearly always liked Dean, but when I understood I loved Dean was when he worked out John was possessed. That was such heartbreak.

I'm flipping through deviantArt, trying to pay more attention to other people's fanart, in order to help me and mine, and now I have all episodes of all seasons clamouring for time in my head at once--I can't wait for her to reach Croatoan, Mystery Spot...oh, there's so much there there, and we're not even at Cas yet.

Though, Jesus, if I never saw anyone else's SPN cosplay, it would be too soon. I don't know when the last time I saw anything good enough to make up for the really crap blended stubble and awkwardly spiked hair and creepy kissing (couples who cosplay ships make me feel intrusive not fannish) all over the place.

Speaking of other fans, unsurprisingly Destiel fans are in good cheer, for many reasons. I love the deep meaning excised from every single thing. There's a chair on the other side of the room from where Dean is sitting when he prays, and clearly it's Castiel's chair, so he can sit and watch Dean when he sleeps. There was also something about a desk with a typewriter that was also Castiel's but I don't remember that rationale. Clearly it was incontrovertible, though.