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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Strix - Nov 09, 2012 7:27:54 pm PST #26921 of 30002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Things that pissed me off: Kearney, MO is about 30 minutes north of KC. Yes,there are some rednecks there, but it's basically almost a 'burb of KC. It is NOT the South with the sweet tea everywhere and Confederate flags. Although I am sure there are a few and it's a touch of redneck. But it's not SWIMMING in it!

Also, Smart!Sam SHOCKED that brother fought and killed brother in the Civil War? What the fuck EVER.

I liked Garth. The talking with his mouth open while he was eating was nast, though. And why the SWEET HELL was post-coital Sam wearing a T in bed? Any sane woman having sex with him would want that lovely torso on full display. No matter HOW quick and torrid the sex. NUH-UH.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 7:50:13 pm PST #26922 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Smart!Sam SHOCKED that brother fought and killed brother in the Civil War? What the fuck EVER.

Is that a big deal? I mean, it's clearly American history, but why couldn't a book smart person not know it? The show's writers were clearly writing like their audience didn't know.


Cass - Nov 09, 2012 8:01:05 pm PST #26923 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Is that a big deal?

Going though American high school? Yeah. The Civil War is not my thing in history but the "brother fought brother on opposite sides" was always a big deal. I get they were info dumping but to me it was a noticeably off note that Sam was the one surprised to learn this tidbit.


-t - Nov 09, 2012 8:03:56 pm PST #26924 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'd be surprised if anyone could have gotten through high school American History and not heard the phrase "brother against brother" in reference to the Civil War, although I suppose some people might not believe that was literally descriptive.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 8:04:50 pm PST #26925 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So, if it's that obvious a fact, how come the writers (presumably American) don't feel it's well known? Or are you saying that if you're bright (and law-oriented) you'd definitely know?

(He's the one that called Roanoke, so obviously he knows something about white people in funny clothes)


Cass - Nov 09, 2012 8:08:44 pm PST #26926 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

So, if it's that obvious a fact, how come the writers don't feel it's well known?

Honestly? I think the writers thought it was such a good, clever line that they had to shove it in the script. It's really well known.

(He's the one that called Roanoke, so obviously he knows something about white people in funny clothes)

Exactly. He's smart. Both of those dudes are.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 8:32:48 pm PST #26927 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Smart and informed aren't the same thing--if Dean expressed surprise I'd have flinched a bit that they might have been hammering dumb!Dean, but it would fit his character of sleeping through all the classes until his GED.

So the question is--since they have to hand someone the idiot ball, who needs to have it explained to them? Who can take the most hits? Without lampshading, I mean.


Morgana - Nov 09, 2012 8:35:10 pm PST #26928 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

And why the SWEET HELL was post-coital Sam wearing a T in bed? Any sane woman having sex with him would want that lovely torso on full display. No matter HOW quick and torrid the sex. NUH-UH.

I had the same reaction, because 1)I missed seeing the lovely torso my ownself, 2)Sam's never been shy about showing his skin, and 3)it led me to wonder if he's picked up some new scarring over the past year.

And yes, the Civil War was all about 'brother against brother' in the history classes.


§ ita § - Nov 09, 2012 8:36:45 pm PST #26929 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

2)Sam's never been shy about showing his skin

Have we seen him wake up next to more than one other woman?


Cass - Nov 09, 2012 8:49:42 pm PST #26930 of 30002
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

So the question is--since they have to hand someone the idiot ball, who needs to have it explained to them? Who can take the most hits? Without lampshading, I mean.

I wasn't clear. I don't think they had to hand anyone the idiot ball over the "brother against brother" bit. The audience overwhelmingly knows. I think a writer or staff person was just too in love with the phrase to cut it.