...because God knows you need some satisfaction in life besides shagging Captain Cardboard! And I never really liked you anyway. And you have stupid hair!

Spike ,'Selfless'


Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 18, 2011 6:01:51 am PDT #20367 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I'm still mad that they had Lisa just stop putting up protections around her house like all Dean's precautions were some sort of delusion when she'd had next-door neighbors killed by monsters previously. There are plenty of ways she and Ben could have been caught off guard (hell, it happens to the Winchesters and Bobby all the time) without making it look like she has the memory of a goldfish and self-preservation instincts of a lemming.

If I can remember to turn my AC down every day to avoid a spike in my electric bill, you'd think she could have remembered to lay down salt lines and devil's traps to avoid being attacked by demons in her own home.


§ ita § - Jun 18, 2011 10:18:09 am PDT #20368 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hugging pillow chick has made another. She's good, but not a little creepy. She offered, apparently, to send one to Vicki.

What Dean did was wrong, possibly unsafe, and totally in character. If he could live a life where only Sam remembered him...no, he would sacrifice that too, in order to spare them the blight of his unworthiness.


Marcia - Jun 18, 2011 3:33:06 pm PDT #20369 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I think it's quite in keeping with Dean's character for him to take the heartbreak and loss all onto himself and to try to fix something he believes he broke. Was it skeevy? Maybe. But what was the alternative?

Ben saw his mother possessed, saying horrible things to Ben and to Dean, calling her a whore as the demon held a knife to Ben's throat. He saw his mother mortally wounded by the demon, had a gun thrust into his hands by Dean while Dean carried his mother out of the building. Ben shot humans possessed by demons and watched his mother bleeding to death in the hospital. With Lisa saved and their memories intact, how could Dean make it right? How could he leave them broken and afraid? And he had to leave them.

Yeah, Castiel saved her life but not the mental anguish, fear and trauma that would have haunted them for the rest of their lives. Dean's act, selfish and selfless as Juliebird pointed out, gave them back their lives.

He broke my heart with what he did, but IMHO it was totally a Dean thing to do. Sam called him out and it was totally a Sam thing to do. Still, Dean's been sacrificing his own happiness since he was four years old. I wouldn't expect anything less from him.


Amy - Jun 18, 2011 4:19:13 pm PDT #20370 of 30002
Because books.

What Dean did was wrong, possibly unsafe, and totally in character.

This. I'd emphasize the "possibly," though, because I'm not sure without Dean in the picture, and given where the "battle" ended that Lisa and Ben would have been a target anymore anyway.

The moment really broke me, for mostly for Dean (and JA played it so subtly and beautifully broken himself). Objectively, I knew it was the writers putting a period to that storyline and those characters, and while I know it was wrong, I can't get worked up about it because I also believed Dean would do it, and why.


Morgana - Jun 18, 2011 6:03:50 pm PDT #20371 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

For those who read wincest:

aggybird's Big Bang entry for this year: Sam and Dean Winchester: Unicorn Hunters. Features two Queens of the Faery, a Phouka of intriguing origin, a green Knight, and evil fire-breathing unicorns from another dimension with names like Skullcrusher. I laughed through the entire thing.


P.M. Marc - Jun 18, 2011 6:19:09 pm PDT #20372 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's probably wrong that I now want to write Dean/Cas, just so I can have a section like, "Cas tastes like peanut butter, banana, and bacon sandwiches. If Cas is somehow using his angel powers to figure out Dean's favorite food from the summer he lost his virginity to an Elvis-obsessed college girl, it's crossing the line into creepy stalker territory, and if he's not, then man, angels are weirder than anyone would think."

Only, you know, not typed out on the fly in a comment box.


Calli - Jun 19, 2011 3:53:35 am PDT #20373 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Bwah! I'd love to see a subsequent taste test, to settle the weird vs. stalker conundrum, except that Dean thinks pretty much all other angels are dicks.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 19, 2011 5:31:00 am PDT #20374 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Ha! I know whenever I read scenes along those lines, I'm thinking "People, unless a can of whipped cream is in the picture the best you can realistically hope for is the taste of clean skin and soap!"


§ ita § - Jun 19, 2011 6:34:57 am PDT #20375 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Skin isn't usually what is being tasted in my cites.


Juliebird - Jun 19, 2011 7:18:39 am PDT #20376 of 30002
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

"Castiel tasted like exhaust fumes and ripe dumpsters baking in the August heat and fishmarkets."