I got stupid. The money was too good.

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Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?  

[NAFDA]. This is where we talk about the CW series Supernatural! Anything that's aired in the US on TV (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though — if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Amy - Jul 20, 2010 6:37:43 am PDT #12012 of 30002
Because books.

Oh, I see what you mean. I'm not worried about that, either, though. I've got faith in Sera, as ill-advised as that may be.


Amy - Jul 20, 2010 6:44:47 am PDT #12013 of 30002
Because books.

Now that I think about it, the one thing I really don't want in S6 is Sam coming back wrong. I'm over Sam being evil, or possibly evil, or wrongheadedly evil without meaning to be.

I want SAM back, one way or another.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2010 7:04:00 am PDT #12014 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So now is the time to hypothesise about the blown streetlight. Are you okay with him coming back different?


Typo Boy - Jul 20, 2010 7:08:43 am PDT #12015 of 30002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

He's been possessed by Lucifer, spent time in hell. Has to be different.


Amy - Jul 20, 2010 7:11:32 am PDT #12016 of 30002
Because books.

I actually have a theory (or a wank, whatever you want to call it) in a story I'm working on.

I'm completely okay with him being different. Just not evil, please.


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2010 7:12:16 am PDT #12017 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Has to be different.

EM different? Why? We've been given no indication other angel vessels are anything but cognitively impaired.


Morgana - Jul 20, 2010 8:34:50 am PDT #12018 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

If anyone heals Dean I want it to be Sam, and even then, don't need it at all.

I agree with everyone that Castiel got the "oh my God yes!!" rockstar introduction, and a great quote that has been repeated to the point of almost not meaning anything anymore, but... but.... I have never quite forgiven Show for not allowing Sam to be the one to rescue Dean. I think it damaged Sam's spirit beyond repair.

So when it comes to this new season I'd like to see Sam and Dean work together to overcome their PTSDs with slightly less angelic or Lisa-induced intervention. (Which given that Dean avoids touchy-feely stuff and Show in general avoids much in the way of extended hurt/comfort, is unlikely anyway. Back to the fanfic, I guess.) Also, while I agree that Dean needs much love and support and lots of care to rebuild and piece himself back together, at the moment I'm at least equally concerned with Sam being healed. Hell, possession by Lucifer. None of it good. Preceeded by the whole starting-the-Apocalypse thing. Do you suppose once they're reunited that Dean will be willing to talk with him about it, or will Sam be the one now refusing to speak about his time down under?


§ ita § - Jul 20, 2010 8:46:32 am PDT #12019 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I have never quite forgiven Show for not allowing Sam to be the one to rescue Dean

Give them credit for intending Sam to do it? The writer's strike fucked a lot of storylines up, not just Sam's.

I do like that being rescued by an angel and wanted by God or his minions fucked Dean up more. I like him that way.

I don't think Sam has PTSD, though. He might now, depending on how Hell went. But before, no. He was remarkably well-adjusted at the end of S5. He really pulled out of the bleak obsessive despair of S4 and the guilty depression of early S5. I think he recognised his issues, and even though Dean wouldn't talk about them with him, he processed pretty well.

Which is why he could pull Dean's head out of his ass with respect to the Michael thing.

Basically, I don't believe the power of love can heal PTSD. But if love could, the brotherly bond is the one I'd pick.

Being saved from Hell is the least of Dean's problems. He is his own nemesis.


Amy - Jul 20, 2010 8:51:24 am PDT #12020 of 30002
Because books.

I can't help thinking hell is going to be different for Sam, too. Dean was sent as punishment, specifically to be tortured. Sam is there with the BMOC inside. He shoved him down deep enough to grab Adam/Michael and jump into the hole, but that's no guarantee that Lucifer was knocked out for good. And I don't think hell's population is going to torture Lucifer, no matter what form he's in.


ehab - Jul 20, 2010 8:57:05 am PDT #12021 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I'm in the can't speculate camp. I'm nervous enough for next season. Putting any expectations or hopes on it seems like a bad idea.