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And I don't think hell's population is going to torture Lucifer, no matter what form he's in.
But that doesn't mean that being inside watching (assuming that Sam's conscious) while Lucifer drives his body is going to be a picnic. It will be like having Meg possess him, ramped up a thousandfold.
I'm not interpreting Sam as having jumped into Hell. It's the Lucifer box, and, yes, that's underground, but I don't think that it is (in) Hell in any meaningful way.
Now, still traumatic as all getout, and metaphorically hell, but more like an isolation chamber.
It will be like having Meg possess him, ramped up a thousandfold.
True, depending on what Lucifer does.
I still think the difference between Lucifer using his body to commit atrocities and Dean choosing to commit them himself are two different things. And Sam is a lot better adjusted than Dean to begin with, for relative values of well adjusted.
But yeah, no picnic either way.
The hole wasn't just a portal to hell, it was entry into the same sort of cage that Lucifer was in before the seals were broken, wasn't it? Which I thought was more hidden from everyone (demons, angels, whoever) than a place of torture, per se. Do I have that wrong?
I think you're both right, -t and Debet. I had forgotten that part.
But didn't he still rule things from there? He gave orders to Azazel and Lilith, so he was obviously putting plans in motion. He had ways to contact his minions. He was able to reach out and contact Sam and Nick.
No, he didn't contact Nick until the seal was broken and he was out. And Sam not until he was in Nick's body.
Ah, after I wrote that I wasn't sure of the progression of his appearances.
But didn't he still rule things from there?
That's not the impression I had. I figure up until he was released everyone working for him was going on legend and prophecy and whatnot rather than orders.
It will be like having Meg possess him, ramped up a thousandfold.
Except he missed the entire Meg thing and only angsted about it in retrospect. Whereas Lucifer can choose to communicate with him if he wishes. So if it is the same, I don't think it's that harmful--Lucifer won't be able to commit much mayhem, unless it's on Adam/Michael.
It's perfectly possible that Luci spends his entire time tormenting Sam, which would be hard to come back from.
Or, maybe not.
Dean refers to the place Sam's going to as Hell, for what it's worth.