I'm in the can't speculate camp. I'm nervous enough for next season. Putting any expectations or hopes on it seems like a bad idea.
It's simple. I slap 'em around a bit, torture 'em, make their lives hell...Sure, the nice guys'll run away,but every now and then you'll find a prince like Spike who gets off on it.
Buffy ,'Get It Done'
Supernatural 2: Why is it our job to save everybody?
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ehab - Jul 20, 2010 8:57:05 am PDT #12021 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala
Morgana - Jul 20, 2010 9:03:57 am PDT #12022 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
And I don't think hell's population is going to torture Lucifer, no matter what form he's in.
But that doesn't mean that being inside watching (assuming that Sam's conscious) while Lucifer drives his body is going to be a picnic. It will be like having Meg possess him, ramped up a thousandfold.
DebetEsse - Jul 20, 2010 9:05:27 am PDT #12023 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.
I'm not interpreting Sam as having jumped into Hell. It's the Lucifer box, and, yes, that's underground, but I don't think that it is (in) Hell in any meaningful way.
Now, still traumatic as all getout, and metaphorically hell, but more like an isolation chamber.
Amy - Jul 20, 2010 9:06:24 am PDT #12024 of 30002
Because books.
It will be like having Meg possess him, ramped up a thousandfold.
True, depending on what Lucifer does.
I still think the difference between Lucifer using his body to commit atrocities and Dean choosing to commit them himself are two different things. And Sam is a lot better adjusted than Dean to begin with, for relative values of well adjusted.
But yeah, no picnic either way.
-t - Jul 20, 2010 9:08:01 am PDT #12025 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
The hole wasn't just a portal to hell, it was entry into the same sort of cage that Lucifer was in before the seals were broken, wasn't it? Which I thought was more hidden from everyone (demons, angels, whoever) than a place of torture, per se. Do I have that wrong?
Amy - Jul 20, 2010 9:09:04 am PDT #12026 of 30002
Because books.
I think you're both right, -t and Debet. I had forgotten that part.
Morgana - Jul 20, 2010 9:11:16 am PDT #12027 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
But didn't he still rule things from there? He gave orders to Azazel and Lilith, so he was obviously putting plans in motion. He had ways to contact his minions. He was able to reach out and contact Sam and Nick.
Amy - Jul 20, 2010 9:12:40 am PDT #12028 of 30002
Because books.
No, he didn't contact Nick until the seal was broken and he was out. And Sam not until he was in Nick's body.
Morgana - Jul 20, 2010 9:16:18 am PDT #12029 of 30002
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
Ah, after I wrote that I wasn't sure of the progression of his appearances.
-t - Jul 20, 2010 9:17:20 am PDT #12030 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
But didn't he still rule things from there?
That's not the impression I had. I figure up until he was released everyone working for him was going on legend and prophecy and whatnot rather than orders.