Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?

'The Message'


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ehab - Jul 13, 2010 10:28:31 am PDT #11787 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

ita, I'm not sure that it is skippable, but it so could have been with very little excising.

You may want to give it a shot though. The prologue and first chapter are certainly safe, I'd have to assess other chapters.


Amy - Jul 13, 2010 10:29:01 am PDT #11788 of 30002
Because books.

I don't think the 'cest in Dead Language is skippable, really. It's not blatant, there aren't any graphic scenes (just a couple of mentions) but the emotional aspect is there. I could spoil part of it and say why from one perspective it's not really objectionable, but it's always going to be from the other, and it's not a story you want to start taking apart or skipping.


ehab - Jul 13, 2010 10:30:54 am PDT #11789 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Amy, I didn't think the emotional aspect was anything beyond what Dean in canon is like anyway. They're emotionally co-dependent.

ETA: I think the storyline forgives a lot of physicality between them too.


Amy - Jul 13, 2010 10:32:19 am PDT #11790 of 30002
Because books.

Maybe it depends which glasses you're wearing when you read it? I suppose if the few mentions of actual, you know, physicality hadn't been there, I could see that. I think it would be hard to try to read around it, though, especially if it's a big squick, like it is for ita.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2010 10:34:00 am PDT #11791 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, I make my peace with missing the good fic.

Amy, could you spoilerfont why you think it's not objectionable from one perspective? I am hella curious, even if I'm going to pass up on the whole thing.


Marcia - Jul 13, 2010 10:34:08 am PDT #11792 of 30002
Kneel before Glod. ~Stephen Colbert

I hear you, ehab. I agree, it wouldn't have lost any of its genius.

(Yeah, I erred on the side of white-font caution. ::sheepish grin::)

eta: I skimmed the wincest, and what I did manage to catch wasn't hard core explicit -- just OOC for me in what is otherwise really spot-on characterization.


ehab - Jul 13, 2010 10:36:32 am PDT #11793 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

I think it would be hard to try to read around it, though, especially if it's a big squick, like it is for ita.

Yeah. I understand what you're saying, but I also think the emotion and physicality is easily accepted, but for the explicit sexy bits. Though this may speak more to my own ability to accept wincest in the hands of a good writer.


ehab - Jul 13, 2010 10:41:53 am PDT #11794 of 30002
...all my words have been taken by my work. - Mala

Oops ita, I just re-read what you're asking for and this isn't it. Consider not reading as I describe the wincesty bits. I clearly have reading comprehension issues.

Not Amy but, there are blow jobs and talk of ongoing intimacy in vague terms. They are very close physically throughout the story but in ways that could be regarded as not wincesty at all. I believe a lot of the intimacy, sans blow jobs, was born of their situation. There's also cuddling in the cold on a porch swing and sharing of a bed (no actual sex in bed). There is also, at one point, a brief discussion about sexual feelings (before anything happens).

ETA: Gah! Sorry, brief editing errors resulted in lack of spoiler font. Fixed.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2010 10:59:04 am PDT #11795 of 30002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Having read the whitefont, yeah, not my story. But if you can give me directions around the John/Mary one, Amy, I will try that.


lcat - Jul 13, 2010 11:03:35 am PDT #11796 of 30002
I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night.

White font question on Dead Language,

is it really Wincest when he isn't Sam, even to Dean?

I'm fine with Wincest but wonder how those who aren't saw it in this story.