Maybe it depends which glasses you're wearing when you read it? I suppose if the few mentions of actual, you know, physicality hadn't been there, I could see that. I think it would be hard to try to read around it, though, especially if it's a big squick, like it is for ita.

Okay, I make my peace with missing the good fic.

Amy, could you spoilerfont why you think it's not objectionable from one perspective? I am hella curious, even if I'm going to pass up on the whole thing.

I hear you, ehab. I agree, it wouldn't have lost any of its genius.

(Yeah, I erred on the side of white-font caution. ::sheepish grin::)

eta: I skimmed the wincest, and what I did manage to catch wasn't hard core explicit -- just OOC for me in what is otherwise really spot-on characterization.

I think it would be hard to try to read around it, though, especially if it's a big squick, like it is for ita.

Yeah. I understand what you're saying, but I also think the emotion and physicality is easily accepted, but for the explicit sexy bits. Though this may speak more to my own ability to accept wincest in the hands of a good writer.

Oops ita, I just re-read what you're asking for and this isn't it. Consider not reading as I describe the wincesty bits. I clearly have reading comprehension issues.

Not Amy but, there are blow jobs and talk of ongoing intimacy in vague terms. They are very close physically throughout the story but in ways that could be regarded as not wincesty at all. I believe a lot of the intimacy, sans blow jobs, was born of their situation. There's also cuddling in the cold on a porch swing and sharing of a bed (no actual sex in bed). There is also, at one point, a brief discussion about sexual feelings (before anything happens).

ETA: Gah! Sorry, brief editing errors resulted in lack of spoiler font. Fixed.

Having read the whitefont, yeah, not my story. But if you can give me directions around the John/Mary one, Amy, I will try that.

White font question on Dead Language,

is it really Wincest when he isn't Sam, even to Dean?

I'm fine with Wincest but wonder how those who aren't saw it in this story.

Sorry ita, if I squicked you out. I contemplated deleting the entry but I was in panic fix-it mode instead.

eta: lcat that is probably what Amy meant when she said it wasn't objectionable from one perspective.

Fixed a spoiler tag upthread, btw.

i'm way behind in this thread, but did we know about this? most especially...did Plei know about this? Jensen AND NPH?

Ohyeah. Crud. Need to beta Trip's essay on it.

I went to add Red Hood it to the Netlfix queue and found D already has it reserved.