Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


The Great Write Way, Act Three: Where's the gun?

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


Gudanov - Sep 10, 2009 7:22:14 am PDT #2167 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

If for some bizarre reason you want to hear Audrey reading one of my chapters.

Chapter 14

There are several places I wince, but hey, it's almost a rough draft considering the amount that changed from the original version. If you listen to it, obviously there will be a few context problems since there are 13 chapters before.

I've enjoyed listening to Sam's adventure while commuting.


Gudanov - Sep 10, 2009 10:17:11 am PDT #2168 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I have a question. I have a beta exchange person who writes well and certainly has more experience than I do. In 7800 words of two chapters (though divided into sections), there are 6 POVs. I feel a little red flag of too many POVs, is that a legit concern? She has an eye toward trying to sell this, so it isn't a purely subjective evaluation.


Laga - Sep 10, 2009 10:24:02 am PDT #2169 of 6690
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as it was clear whose eyes I was looking through. I love books that have multiple POVs but I hate it when I'm halfway through a page before I realize I've got the wrong character's voice in my head.


erikaj - Sep 10, 2009 11:34:43 am PDT #2170 of 6690
Always Anti-fascist!

New writing ritual: I tend to start my writing time every day with Jane's Addiction's "Superhero" AKA the Entourage theme...that doesn't mean I'm gonna do that lame Stephenie Meyer thing and give them space in my Acknowledgements does it?(I think they'd hate it) But I hate when I get superstitious like that...what if I get an idea when I'm far from "Superhero?" Not to mention that it undermines my "craft, not voodoo," argument and makes me feel like a jock who doesn't change his socks all season(or, you know, something grosser, like Stephenie Meyer. Or Billy Walsh.) No wonder she makes the teenyboppers happy...it helps to be one.


Laga - Sep 10, 2009 11:39:24 am PDT #2171 of 6690
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Somebody thanked Paul Simon for "One Trick Pony" in their dedication but now I can't remember who it was.


Gudanov - Sep 11, 2009 5:26:28 am PDT #2172 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I sent it off and didn't say anything about the POVs. I felt a bit bad because my critique seemed a bit harsh, so I made sure to include all the stuff I liked. I don't like to be negative, but I feel like it would be worse to not mention real concerns.

Totally unrelated, Emaryn tore through "Sam" in one sitting. Her comments were too vague to be of any use, but she did say it was good. So there is the opinion of a 10 year old, a fully qualified kid.


Allyson - Sep 11, 2009 8:23:24 am PDT #2173 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Please pass my thanks on to Emaryn, Gud! I love my young beta readers. Vague comments are very useful. At ten, she might be a little too old for Sam, I think my target is 2nd grade readers (though, honestly, I'm unsure what that really means).

Whoot!


Ginger - Sep 11, 2009 8:32:45 am PDT #2174 of 6690
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'm reading away, Allyson. Will tonight be too late?


Allyson - Sep 11, 2009 9:14:05 am PDT #2175 of 6690
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Not at all! I'm starved for feedback and will hand it all over to Kate on Sunday after a polish.


Gudanov - Sep 11, 2009 9:42:58 am PDT #2176 of 6690
Coding and Sleeping

I will try to get through more by tomorrow evening. I won't be able to get through it all. I'm a bit over-committed at the moment.