I can see current Herrick tolerating it as a sign of how miniony she is. But Adrian Lester's Herrick would have her lick his boots to display same. It's not like our Herrick has that many women knocking down his door, really. And Lester can command a writhing harem of vampire babes.
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§ ita § - Sep 05, 2009 9:37:21 pm PDT #9818 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Vortex - Sep 05, 2009 9:53:24 pm PDT #9819 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I can see that as well, but it didn't ring true in a lot of places, like when Herrick is leaving to meet Mitchell, and everyone is cheering him on, and he stops to kiss her. didn't work for me. It would have worked better if she'd done something subservient, like put on his coat or something.
Zenkitty - Sep 06, 2009 4:51:34 am PDT #9820 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
when Herrick is leaving to meet Mitchell, and everyone is cheering him on, and he stops to kiss her. didn't work for me.
I thought it was just me, misunderstanding something. It made me kind of step back from the story for a moment, wondering, "who is SHE, now? isn't she just Cafeteria Girl?" It made her look like more than a disposable concubine/minion, which is what I think she really was.
§ ita § - Sep 06, 2009 6:48:35 am PDT #9821 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It made her look like more than a disposable concubine/minion, which is what I think she really was.
I have to guess she's more than that, because she's plain, but why? It makes little sense.
Maybe she's explained in series 2.
-t - Sep 06, 2009 7:14:33 am PDT #9822 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
She seemed very Renfieldish, but she's actually a vampire, so I don't know what the deal is supposed to be.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 06, 2009 8:07:39 am PDT #9823 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Everything I've read about JMallozzi's response to the fanbase has made me dislike him and miss showrunners like Tim and John Rogers and even almost cranky Joss.
At least they backed off calling their black guy Psycho. Maybe they're capable of learning? Probably not complex lessons, and probably not in time.
I don't think they're capable of learning, but I do think their worst excesses of bad taste can be held somewhat in check by network suits. Apparently so many people complained about the loaded issues in character descriptions and spoiler plot points that someone with real power at SciFi or MGM took notice and said "Fix this, NOW." I suspect TPTB at Bridge Studios will be resentful of getting their wrists slapped and passive aggressively whinge about their "vision" being tampered with, but hopefully people with an eye on the bottom line will be able to prevent the more glaring racist depictions and rapetastic clueless middle-aged white man fantasies.
I'm still astounded that the showrunners of the SG franchise are so bad about tokenism and cliches that I'm actually cheering for network interference from the people who brought us Mansquito.
Theodosia - Sep 06, 2009 10:35:11 am PDT #9824 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
Evidently there's not only a Riverworld series coming from Psiffy, but its producer is !Robert!Hewitt!Wolfe!!! and it's going to star Tahmoh Pennikett?! Am I the last to hear about this or something?
§ ita § - Sep 06, 2009 11:09:41 am PDT #9825 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Isn't Tahmoh kinda busy? ::googles::
Nevermind. Miniseries, already finished. Also featuring Alan Cumming and Peter Wingfield. Why is IO9 citing 24 for Peter Wingfield? Silly rabbits.
Zenkitty - Sep 06, 2009 11:32:25 am PDT #9826 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Peter Wingfield on my television again! Perhaps I shall pretend he is Methos pretending to be Sir Richard Burton. Theodosia, you're not the last to hear about it: I was. Because this is where I heard about it, just now.
God, I hope this is good. Because they could fuck it up so, so badly.
Theodosia - Sep 06, 2009 12:16:40 pm PDT #9827 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I put a lot of faith in Wolfe, seriously. For instance, he was on the first season of Andromeda, and some of the best seasons of DS9. So fingers crossed.