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(Why the HBVG just stood there and did the Evil Overlord speech instead of attacking while George was in the midst of the change is beyond me, though
Herrick thought he'd win if he forced George to kill, by making him forsake the vaunted humanity. But since George considered he was doing it out of love for Mitchell, he thought it rather proof of humanity.
That makes sense, from a narrative point of view. But for Herrick to win he has to die. He never struck me as that selfless. He wants a revolution, but he wants to be in charge of it.
That was never his plan, it was just what he told himself when it looked like he had no way out (Or what he told George. I think when he said that, he was hoping George would back down, he was terrified when George said it was his sacrifice).
He seemed pretty confident that the machine would succeed without him. I'm of two minds about whether he's more interested in tearing down George than leading the end of the world, if he knows the world will end anyway. Maybe he needs the gravy of the demise of George's soul.
Maybe. He sure had a lot invested in bringing Mitchell back to evil, if he could get George in exchange for his own life he might genuinely consider that a fair trade.
Wow, heavy. I just thought Herrick couldn't get close to George because George was wearing his Star of David. He even explained why it didn't hurt Mitchell. I didn't see Herrick as being willing to sacrifice himself for anything; he saw himself as too important, as key to the plan. I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.
I hope we see more of the vicar!
FWIW, I've always thought the Tetragrammaton (JHVH) would be way more effective than a Star of David. Sort of like a crucifix as opposed to a fish symbol for Christianity.
I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.
I think that it's the symbol of faith. If someone is wearing a cross as a fashion statement, it won't protect them from a vampire. I also like that they followed the logic with it not hurting Mitchell because of George's feelings, and the fact that the vicar didn't actually need a symbol because his faith was strong with the Bible quotes.
I hope we see more of the vicar!
I liked the vicar too, he'd be an interesting side character.
So, I'm thinking that the wolf didn't hurt Nina not because George cared about her, but because the wolf knew that she was going to be a werewolf. And now that George has started to come to terms with his wolfiness, he can now feel guilty about turning Nina (although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf)
although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf
Assuming you don't really believe in werewolves: You see the person you love writhing in agony (which, really, is probably about all you can tell is happening in that instance, especially since it would never occur to you that he's becoming a werewolf, as they're not real.) And, let's make this better, let's say you're a nurse. Why on Earth wouldn't you go to him?
Yeah, she had no idea.
I also like the vicar, and how the show is handling religion vis-a-vis vampires. Also, love Owen in whatever institution that was. "She was trying to drive me mad", indeed.