Wow, heavy. I just thought Herrick couldn't get close to George because George was wearing his Star of David. He even explained why it didn't hurt Mitchell. I didn't see Herrick as being willing to sacrifice himself for anything; he saw himself as too important, as key to the plan. I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.

I hope we see more of the vicar!

FWIW, I've always thought the Tetragrammaton (JHVH) would be way more effective than a Star of David. Sort of like a crucifix as opposed to a fish symbol for Christianity.

I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.

I think that it's the symbol of faith. If someone is wearing a cross as a fashion statement, it won't protect them from a vampire. I also like that they followed the logic with it not hurting Mitchell because of George's feelings, and the fact that the vicar didn't actually need a symbol because his faith was strong with the Bible quotes.

I hope we see more of the vicar!

I liked the vicar too, he'd be an interesting side character.

So, I'm thinking that the wolf didn't hurt Nina not because George cared about her, but because the wolf knew that she was going to be a werewolf. And now that George has started to come to terms with his wolfiness, he can now feel guilty about turning Nina (although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf)

although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf

Assuming you don't really believe in werewolves: You see the person you love writhing in agony (which, really, is probably about all you can tell is happening in that instance, especially since it would never occur to you that he's becoming a werewolf, as they're not real.) And, let's make this better, let's say you're a nurse. Why on Earth wouldn't you go to him?

Yeah, she had no idea.

I also like the vicar, and how the show is handling religion vis-a-vis vampires. Also, love Owen in whatever institution that was. "She was trying to drive me mad", indeed.

So I finished TW: CoE last night - last two episodes in one go. Seriously depressing. Really good, but depressing.

I think, while Jack's plan was incredibly stupid, it wasn't terribly different than other stupid plans of his that have worked. This time it didn't.

Part of me wishes that the series had given me more of an emotional investment in Stephen, but another part wonders if it would have been unendurable. It was pretty brutal as it was.

I also agree I can't see how they are going to come back from this, but I'm curious to see how they try.

And, let's make this better, let's say you're a nurse. Why on Earth wouldn't you go to him?

because his two best friends are trying to hold you back and telling you not to go?

because his two best friends are trying to hold you back and telling you not to go?

One of whom you've literally just met, and the other of whom you have reason to believe is the source of his problems. (Mitchell: not inspiring trust!) No, I don't see any way Nina could have not gone to him, considering the circumstances.

Well, Mitchell actually forcefully preventing her from doing so might have worked. He might not have been a match for Herrick, but surely he could have restrained a normal person of less than his mass for the minute or so it would have taken?

::jazz hands, jazz hands::