You got fired, and you still hang around here like a big loser. Why can't he?

Cordelia ,'Chosen'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Theodosia - Aug 31, 2009 2:13:46 am PDT #9761 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I hope we see more of the vicar!

FWIW, I've always thought the Tetragrammaton (JHVH) would be way more effective than a Star of David. Sort of like a crucifix as opposed to a fish symbol for Christianity.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2009 4:42:11 am PDT #9762 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.

I think that it's the symbol of faith. If someone is wearing a cross as a fashion statement, it won't protect them from a vampire. I also like that they followed the logic with it not hurting Mitchell because of George's feelings, and the fact that the vicar didn't actually need a symbol because his faith was strong with the Bible quotes.

I hope we see more of the vicar!

I liked the vicar too, he'd be an interesting side character.

So, I'm thinking that the wolf didn't hurt Nina not because George cared about her, but because the wolf knew that she was going to be a werewolf. And now that George has started to come to terms with his wolfiness, he can now feel guilty about turning Nina (although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf)


victor infante - Aug 31, 2009 7:13:35 am PDT #9763 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

although it's her own damned fault, how stupid was that, running into a room with a changing werewolf

Assuming you don't really believe in werewolves: You see the person you love writhing in agony (which, really, is probably about all you can tell is happening in that instance, especially since it would never occur to you that he's becoming a werewolf, as they're not real.) And, let's make this better, let's say you're a nurse. Why on Earth wouldn't you go to him?


-t - Aug 31, 2009 7:54:22 am PDT #9764 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, she had no idea.

I also like the vicar, and how the show is handling religion vis-a-vis vampires. Also, love Owen in whatever institution that was. "She was trying to drive me mad", indeed.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 31, 2009 8:01:33 am PDT #9765 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So I finished TW: CoE last night - last two episodes in one go. Seriously depressing. Really good, but depressing.

I think, while Jack's plan was incredibly stupid, it wasn't terribly different than other stupid plans of his that have worked. This time it didn't.

Part of me wishes that the series had given me more of an emotional investment in Stephen, but another part wonders if it would have been unendurable. It was pretty brutal as it was.

I also agree I can't see how they are going to come back from this, but I'm curious to see how they try.


Vortex - Aug 31, 2009 8:06:36 am PDT #9766 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And, let's make this better, let's say you're a nurse. Why on Earth wouldn't you go to him?

because his two best friends are trying to hold you back and telling you not to go?


victor infante - Aug 31, 2009 8:31:41 am PDT #9767 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

because his two best friends are trying to hold you back and telling you not to go?

One of whom you've literally just met, and the other of whom you have reason to believe is the source of his problems. (Mitchell: not inspiring trust!) No, I don't see any way Nina could have not gone to him, considering the circumstances.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 31, 2009 9:25:40 am PDT #9768 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, Mitchell actually forcefully preventing her from doing so might have worked. He might not have been a match for Herrick, but surely he could have restrained a normal person of less than his mass for the minute or so it would have taken?


Morgana - Aug 31, 2009 12:23:32 pm PDT #9769 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber

::jazz hands, jazz hands::


Typo Boy - Aug 31, 2009 2:46:17 pm PDT #9770 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well, Mitchell actually forcefully preventing her from doing so might have worked.

He was being too emo and distracted to do anything that practical. The only things that detracted from Annie's awesomeness in this ep were that she did not finish off giggly-vamp, and that she did not react quickly to save Nina from herself. I really don't care about the weepiness. She weeps easily, as some people do. It does not stop her from being a badass.