Really?
Interesting. Yes, I definitely see more truama in George's future - poor thing.
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sumi - Aug 30, 2009 7:59:23 am PDT #9751 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
quester - Aug 30, 2009 6:35:54 pm PDT #9752 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
I wasn't entirely clear to me why the main vampire bad guy went to the hospital basement. Did I miss something?
Morgana - Aug 30, 2009 6:59:44 pm PDT #9753 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
I think it's because George paid him a visit and told him where the Mad Max deathmatch was supposed to take place. And I'm guessing George told him to show up in the hospital basement, instead of on the roof where Mitchell was. I'm also guessing that George didn't go see Head Bad Vampire Guy because Mitchell sent him. He was interfering to set the HBVG in a confined space where George'd have an advantage once he changed. (Why the HBVG just stood there and did the Evil Overlord speech instead of attacking while George was in the midst of the change is beyond me, though.)
quester - Aug 30, 2009 7:07:21 pm PDT #9754 of 30001
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.
Oh, that makes sense. I forgot he was the "messenger".
§ ita § - Aug 30, 2009 7:24:10 pm PDT #9755 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
(Why the HBVG just stood there and did the Evil Overlord speech instead of attacking while George was in the midst of the change is beyond me, though
Herrick thought he'd win if he forced George to kill, by making him forsake the vaunted humanity. But since George considered he was doing it out of love for Mitchell, he thought it rather proof of humanity.
Morgana - Aug 30, 2009 7:43:57 pm PDT #9756 of 30001
"I make mistakes, but I am on the side of Good," the Golux said, "by accident and happenchance.” – The 13 Clocks, James Thurber
That makes sense, from a narrative point of view. But for Herrick to win he has to die. He never struck me as that selfless. He wants a revolution, but he wants to be in charge of it.
-t - Aug 30, 2009 7:55:38 pm PDT #9757 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
That was never his plan, it was just what he told himself when it looked like he had no way out (Or what he told George. I think when he said that, he was hoping George would back down, he was terrified when George said it was his sacrifice).
§ ita § - Aug 30, 2009 7:55:51 pm PDT #9758 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
He seemed pretty confident that the machine would succeed without him. I'm of two minds about whether he's more interested in tearing down George than leading the end of the world, if he knows the world will end anyway. Maybe he needs the gravy of the demise of George's soul.
-t - Aug 30, 2009 8:04:21 pm PDT #9759 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Maybe. He sure had a lot invested in bringing Mitchell back to evil, if he could get George in exchange for his own life he might genuinely consider that a fair trade.
Zenkitty - Aug 30, 2009 9:51:37 pm PDT #9760 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Wow, heavy. I just thought Herrick couldn't get close to George because George was wearing his Star of David. He even explained why it didn't hurt Mitchell. I didn't see Herrick as being willing to sacrifice himself for anything; he saw himself as too important, as key to the plan. I liked that it was a Star of David and not a cross. I also liked the brave vicar, who's probably not buying George's reassurance that those were just bad men.