Did anyone feel that this episode was too much exposition? I understand they were dealing with a budget, but couldn't we have seen some of the stuff that was described and not told?
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le nubian - Feb 13, 2009 7:00:51 pm PST #6805 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
sumi - Feb 13, 2009 8:10:44 pm PST #6806 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
It was very expositiony (BSG, right?) - but I still enjoyed it.
So sad to see poor falling apart Galactica.
Typo Boy - Feb 13, 2009 8:13:15 pm PST #6807 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
don't recall her even mentioning gang rape--just that it was a federal prison, and that they were worse than the alternative, state prison.
She said "you know what they will do you the first night. And the second". And since he did not cooperate it is pretty clear he is being sent off to the Federal prison. What the else is she implying? The other prisoners are going to call him names? And yet, I'm sure he is an evil awful villain. But there are supposed to be limits to what is done even to evil awful villains.
§ ita § - Feb 13, 2009 8:14:16 pm PST #6808 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did 7 even make it out of the box? This ep didn't grab me enough, so I missed parts of the infodump.
§ ita § - Feb 13, 2009 8:16:41 pm PST #6809 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm evidently confusing my sending-to-jail shows, TB.
sumi - Feb 13, 2009 8:28:56 pm PST #6810 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
BSG: 7 made it out of the box because they knew that he spent all his time painting and that Cavil got jealous because he was Ellen's favorite so he messed up the goo for the resurrection baths for the 7s so that when he died - he was dead.
Fringe: I'm pretty sure that Olivia told the prisoner that she had his transfer to state pen in her hands and she was threatening him with processing that paperwork and transferring him if he didn't cooperate.
Typo Boy - Feb 13, 2009 8:39:06 pm PST #6811 of 30001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Fringe:I'm pretty sure that Olivia told the prisoner that she had his transfer to state pen in her hands and she was threatening him with processing that paperwork and transferring him if he didn't cooperate.
And that threat included "Do you know what they will do to you the first night? And the second?" And his face crumpled a little. So yes she was threatening to transfer him from the State to the the Federal Prison. And the teeth behind that sure sounded to me like a threat was that he'd be raped while there. (And he did not cooperate, though she got something useful from him. No indication that she was bluffing. So, absent evidence to the contrary, I'd assume the transfer was processed. (Since this is the first ep I've seen, I'd accept the word of others who have watched previous eps that she would bluff about stuff like that, and not follow through on the threat.))
sumi - Feb 13, 2009 8:42:17 pm PST #6812 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!
No, she was threatening to transfer him from the federal prison to state.
I'm not arguing that she said the other stuff - I'm just saying that federal prisons aren't all Guantanamo and I don't think THAT was what she was threatening him with.
brenda m - Feb 13, 2009 8:42:36 pm PST #6813 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
And that threat included "Do you know what they will do to you the first night? And the second?" And his face crumpled a little. So yes she was threatening to transfer him from the State to the the Federal Prison. And the teeth behind that sure sounded to me like a threat was that he'd be raped while there.
It's a constant, constant thing these days. Pops up in pretty much every cop show and a great number of others.
The level of tolerance or outright approval for prison rape in this society right now is frankly sickening. It's almost never mentioned except for a laugh or a little visceral thrill.
§ ita § - Feb 13, 2009 8:45:52 pm PST #6814 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's almost never mentioned except for a laugh or a little visceral thrill.
Or, as in the Fringe example, a threat. I didn't get a thrill vibe off her statement at all.
I wonder what the stats are for prison rape if you come in as a no-status fish. (eta: The overall stats in 2007 were 1 in 20 in the past 12 months)
Gar, she's not a bluffer.