No, she was threatening to transfer him from the federal prison to state.

I'm not arguing that she said the other stuff - I'm just saying that federal prisons aren't all Guantanamo and I don't think THAT was what she was threatening him with.

And that threat included "Do you know what they will do to you the first night? And the second?" And his face crumpled a little. So yes she was threatening to transfer him from the State to the the Federal Prison. And the teeth behind that sure sounded to me like a threat was that he'd be raped while there.

It's a constant, constant thing these days. Pops up in pretty much every cop show and a great number of others.

The level of tolerance or outright approval for prison rape in this society right now is frankly sickening. It's almost never mentioned except for a laugh or a little visceral thrill.

It's almost never mentioned except for a laugh or a little visceral thrill.

Or, as in the Fringe example, a threat. I didn't get a thrill vibe off her statement at all.

I wonder what the stats are for prison rape if you come in as a no-status fish. (eta: The overall stats in 2007 were 1 in 20 in the past 12 months)

Gar, she's not a bluffer.

Or, as in the Fringe example, a threat.

No, that's true. But there's often such a tone of satisfaction about it that, ugh. Once you start noticing and thinking about it it really jumps out. (I didn't see this episode so I don't know if this is the case here, but generally speaking.)

That was the WTFiest episode of BSG of all time.

I think that the recipient of the threat's lack of reaction and Anna Torv's lack of affect may have prevented any smugness in intent from coming across - if that was supposed to be there.

It read as a threat and I didn't get more than that from Olivia. (And as I said, the guy - really didn't react.)

DW thinks the 7 is Baltar because they mentioned something about Daniel (the 7) appearing in people's heads. I enjoyed getting the info and it seemed to make sense, but that wasn't quite the way I wanted to get it, you know? An Ellen/Cavill, Anders/other final 5 brain dump. Also, I really can't stand Ellen and am kind of annoyed that she is playing such an important role. Hell, I'm annoyed to see her again, period!

And as I said, the guy - really didn't react.

Yes he did. His face totally crumpled. Then he recovered and got back his poker face. But absolute terror showed through for a moment.

Okay, I've rewatched BSG. I think making 7 Kara's father is a bit of a cheat, because there's no indication he ever made it to the colonies, is there?

I think you're onto something, ita. Unless John Cavil contaminated Daniel's amniotic fluid after he died on Caprica, and not after he died on Earth, which doesn't make sense since Ellen at that point, forgetful of who she really was, wasn't playing favorites with 7. I didn't see much of a reaction from Starbuck over the name either.

I'm so confused, though, Ellen isn't being counted as one of the final five anymore? She's the 0/creator that's been speculated about? That's... even more disappointing than her been a final fiver. Except, she still is a final five, isn't she? And where exactly did that come from? The humlons she and the other Five created? So they got their history wrong? Cavil erased not just the memory of Daniel from the humlons, everything and anything reminiscent of his existence?