These are stone killers, little man. They ain't cuddly like me.

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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Jessica - Jan 18, 2009 8:57:23 am PST #6293 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

if the body Starbuck is in is mostly human, looks just like her and has all of her memories (minus some tampering to get her to lead people back to Earth, which seems significant) then who's to say it ISN'T really her?

I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying someone had to rebuild her after the original Starbuck crash-landed, and I can't think of a simpler explanation that doesn't involve some kind of time travel.


§ ita § - Jan 18, 2009 9:23:43 am PST #6294 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hidden cylon enclave? Or is it cheating to have more?


Theodosia - Jan 19, 2009 4:58:42 am PST #6295 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We STILL haven't met the Cylon God, whom I'm convinced is an actual being (or at least ginormous computer being).


victor infante - Jan 19, 2009 5:06:09 am PST #6296 of 30001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

We STILL haven't met the Cylon God, whom I'm convinced is an actual being (or at least ginormous computer being).

I'll agree this far -- there does seem to be a master hand behind events, someone or something orchestrating everything.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 19, 2009 5:50:45 am PST #6297 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I am so going to laugh if they all wake up with Matrix-style computer jacks in the final episode and it turns out that everything was a big virtual reality simulation.


le nubian - Jan 19, 2009 5:59:11 am PST #6298 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm telling you, I totally think that when they saw earth at the end of last season, I was hoping for a shot of the human battery fields.

Or, we'd see T2.

I think that would have been WAY cool.

Sounds to me like they are going in a different direction though...


sumi - Jan 19, 2009 7:31:38 am PST #6299 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Kandyse McClure interview on ScifiWire.


sumi - Jan 19, 2009 7:57:49 am PST #6300 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

Sophia - you were spoiled for the webisodes by comments about "Sometimes a Great Notion"?

Or spoiled for the webisodes by comments about the webisodes.

Because I believe that events in the webisodes take place after Sometimes a Great Notion. Possibly in between 4.11 and 4.12.


Kathy A - Jan 19, 2009 8:17:16 am PST #6301 of 30001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

The webisodes definitely take place after "Great Notion." IIRC, they start six days after they found Earth, and from what they said in Great Notion, that ep only spanned two-three days at the most. I'm guessing Gaeta's haggard appearance in Webisode Ep 1 resulted from not only the post-Earth aftermath, but also Dee's death.


sumi - Jan 19, 2009 9:30:47 am PST #6302 of 30001
Art Crawl!!!

BTW, with Ellen now known to be the Fifth, I'm ready to believe that the Final Five were nothing special just happened to be saved randomly saved somehow to be resurrected this time around.