I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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le nubian - Sep 08, 2008 4:24:18 pm PDT #4515 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

re: SCC...

BF and I had to pause the tivo during the scene:

"It's called Babylon. It's from the Bible."

Man, that hit us right in the funny bone. We followed that line of dialogue with:

"It's called the baby Jesus. It's from the Bible."

"It's called God. It's from the Bible."


askye - Sep 08, 2008 4:30:02 pm PDT #4516 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Yeah I heard that and it felt weird but hey she's a terminator! so maybe that makes more sense? I still loved when she morphed out of the toilet. I knew that guy was going to end up dead after bitching about her, I just didn't expect that.

So the bad terminators are here to make sure they exist and the resistance is here (meaning back in time) to make sure they don't . Everyone is trying to pull the strings and yet the future still happens the way it happens.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 08, 2008 4:31:37 pm PDT #4517 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So the red head chick is new right?

Shirley Manson, baby!!!! Woot!!

Not that I'm a fan or anything.


tiggy - Sep 08, 2008 4:32:01 pm PDT #4518 of 30001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

duuuuuuude!!! SHIRLEY MANSON!! that scene was fantastic and totally made me want to rewatch T2.


Jessica - Sep 08, 2008 4:34:16 pm PDT #4519 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I still loved when she morphed out of the toilet.

I knew it was coming and still winced at the thought of how many guys must have peed on her before the one she wanted to stab walked in. (And what if he'd chosen the urinal one stall over? There are just SO MANY WAYS her dramatic reveal could have gone hilariously wrong!)


Ginger - Sep 08, 2008 5:18:07 pm PDT #4520 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

And what if he'd chosen the urinal one stall over?

She could have slithered over as toilet paper?

I figured from the beginning she was a terminator, if only because no human could stand the pain of that hairdo, plus she was just off. The headache-inducing time travel question is: Does this mean Skynet creates itself?


Frankenbuddha - Sep 08, 2008 5:23:01 pm PDT #4521 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Anybody else getting a Borg Queen vibe off of Shirley's character (and not just because of the red hair)? She seems to have a personality along with self-awareness. I wonder if she's Skynet in T-1000 form.


Vortex - Sep 08, 2008 7:42:50 pm PDT #4522 of 30001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

LOVE Shirley Manson. I wasn't paying attention in the credits at the beginning, so it was a nice surprise. She is going to be AWESOME.


Polter-Cow - Sep 08, 2008 8:13:20 pm PDT #4523 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

What is the title of that song in the opening?

I don't know, but it seems to be a new Shirley Manson song! Which is sweet.

Ooh, it appears to be a cover of a Grateful Dead song. Well, not exclusively.

Josh Friedman says it was done by Shirley and Bear McCreary.

And here's Bear's post about the song.


Theodosia - Sep 09, 2008 2:56:42 am PDT #4524 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It was a nice song.

Loved it when Cameron stapled her face back together.

The whole hour held me rapt, which I wasn't expecting -- I only turned it on after The Closer ended and intended to watch just the teaser while I finished my snack.