Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

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Ginger - Sep 08, 2008 3:51:29 pm PDT #4508 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

John Connor

Terminate

Termination Rescinded (or maybe Aborted)


askye - Sep 08, 2008 3:52:43 pm PDT #4509 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Okay.

So the red head chick is new right?


askye - Sep 08, 2008 3:57:12 pm PDT #4510 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

HOLY SHIT.


Monique - Sep 08, 2008 3:57:29 pm PDT #4511 of 30001

Yep, she's new.

So they skimmed over which one of them killed that dude at the beginning, right?


askye - Sep 08, 2008 3:58:49 pm PDT #4512 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Okay this is a good episode. I liked the end. I liked Cameron and John.

He cut his hair. He's not fooling around anymore.


Juliebird - Sep 08, 2008 4:02:54 pm PDT #4513 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Okay so she was telling the truth or is being more devious?

Was Derek mentioning something about how her model had tricked someone in the future by pulling the "but I love you" schtick? I'm thinking that in any case, it's meant to be ambiguous. Was it the bad terminator with enough programming to pull a last gasp like that, or did the truck sammich knock her circuits back into the alignment of Good? I'm thinking the former, if only because of her final plea to Sarah to not let John save her after she went bad. Being aware of her own potential danger to her protectee would seem to rule out begging for mercy from said protectee after trying to kill him. Unless we're into whole new Terminator territory with emotion and self-preservation over-ruling protocol (the protocol being John Connor's preservation). And we're back into the land of the United States of Ambiguity.

also, that was me assuming you meant the truck sammich scene. I was quite convinced during her final scene with John that she was sincere, not only because of the "abort termination" command, but, as Matt said, if her purpose was to kill him, she would have killed him.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 08, 2008 4:05:34 pm PDT #4514 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Okay so she was telling the truth or is being more devious?

Truth at least for now, I think. She could have killed John before any of the others could reach them in that "promise" scene if she had still been following her original programming. It wouldn't make sense for a machine to give up that golden an opportunity to make an attempt later.


le nubian - Sep 08, 2008 4:24:18 pm PDT #4515 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

re: SCC...

BF and I had to pause the tivo during the scene:

"It's called Babylon. It's from the Bible."

Man, that hit us right in the funny bone. We followed that line of dialogue with:

"It's called the baby Jesus. It's from the Bible."

"It's called God. It's from the Bible."


askye - Sep 08, 2008 4:30:02 pm PDT #4516 of 30001
Thrive to spite them

Yeah I heard that and it felt weird but hey she's a terminator! so maybe that makes more sense? I still loved when she morphed out of the toilet. I knew that guy was going to end up dead after bitching about her, I just didn't expect that.

So the bad terminators are here to make sure they exist and the resistance is here (meaning back in time) to make sure they don't . Everyone is trying to pull the strings and yet the future still happens the way it happens.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 08, 2008 4:31:37 pm PDT #4517 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So the red head chick is new right?

Shirley Manson, baby!!!! Woot!!

Not that I'm a fan or anything.