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'Heart Of Gold'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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Stephanie - Feb 20, 2008 8:35:55 am PST #346 of 30001
Trust my rage

My theory is that Cameron's not "going bad" as much as she is contemplating what it means to destroy her own kind - or maybe even be "her kind." They've shown lots of lingering shots of her face looking at the chess robots and other robots.


§ ita § - Feb 20, 2008 9:01:48 am PST #347 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At first I thought she was storing flesh to repair herself--is she going to keep that cut forever? And I thought the schmutz over her left eyebrow was a remnant of a wound from the first big battle, but future maybe Cameron had the same mark.

I've been watching Star Trek TOS quite religiously recently, and have been surprisingly impressed by some episodes. At first I'd thought I didn't like it as much as I'd assumed, and then I thought I liked it more. But turns out that some of the eps area laughable and some are keepers.

I adore Spock beyond reason. I also have a fair crush on Paris in Mission: Impossible.


tommyrot - Feb 20, 2008 9:18:40 am PST #348 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I loved Star Trek TOS to death as a kid, so I find it hard to objectively judge now. But yeah, Spock was always my favorite character. Plus there was something tragic to him where the only time he was ever happy was when he was under the influence of some alien spore.

(Whitefont just in case ita doesn't want to be spoiled for the EP with the spores...)


§ ita § - Feb 20, 2008 9:21:48 am PST #349 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't like the episode with the spores actually, because he was giggly and annoying. But I liked the one with the cloud people with the ethereal blonde that fell for him even though her dad thought she was pining for Kirk. I like how he regarded her.

Then there was that one where they got sent back into a planet's past and he was acting as angrily as his people were at that time (yet McCoy was perfectly normal)...he loved then too, with less giggling, and still there was that pain because McCoy couldn't go back without him, and duty was all.

Spock in charge of the ship is just laugh central. He's so curt and hysterical.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2008 9:24:59 am PST #350 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I didn't like the episode with the spores actually, because he was giggly and annoying.

However, it's always fun to watch Spock beat the crap out of Kirk, so there's that trade-off.


§ ita § - Feb 20, 2008 9:27:01 am PST #351 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's always fun to watch Spock beat the crap out of Kirk, so there's that trade-off.

Hells, yeah.

I wish we'd had Captain Pike instead.


Dana - Feb 20, 2008 9:28:27 am PST #352 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Then there was that one where they got sent back into a planet's past and he was acting as angrily as his people were at that time (yet McCoy was perfectly normal)...he loved then too, with less giggling, and still there was that pain because McCoy couldn't go back without him, and duty was all.

"Time For Yesterday", right? A.C. Crispin wrote a couple of sequels to that. They're really pure fanfic, in the sense that it's the exact same impulse that motivates post-ep fanfic.


tommyrot - Feb 20, 2008 9:28:29 am PST #353 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

However, it's always fun to watch Spock beat the crap out of Kirk, so there's that trade-off.

Yeah. Was that when Kirk tries to get Spock mad by calling him a "half-breed" and saying "your mother was a computer" and such?


Tom Scola - Feb 20, 2008 9:29:10 am PST #354 of 30001
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

After "The Naked Time" (the spore episode) aired, Nimoy's fan mail abruptly went through the roof.

Prior to that episode, Spock was simply an emotionless alien. After that, his character was suddenly a lot more complicated.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2008 9:31:24 am PST #355 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah. Was that when Kirk tries to get Spock mad by calling him a "half-breed" and saying "your mother was a computer" and such?

Yep. And that he should be in the freak show of a circus "right next to the dog-faced boy."