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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

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§ ita § - Feb 20, 2008 9:27:01 am PST #351 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it's always fun to watch Spock beat the crap out of Kirk, so there's that trade-off.

Hells, yeah.

I wish we'd had Captain Pike instead.


Dana - Feb 20, 2008 9:28:27 am PST #352 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Then there was that one where they got sent back into a planet's past and he was acting as angrily as his people were at that time (yet McCoy was perfectly normal)...he loved then too, with less giggling, and still there was that pain because McCoy couldn't go back without him, and duty was all.

"Time For Yesterday", right? A.C. Crispin wrote a couple of sequels to that. They're really pure fanfic, in the sense that it's the exact same impulse that motivates post-ep fanfic.


tommyrot - Feb 20, 2008 9:28:29 am PST #353 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

However, it's always fun to watch Spock beat the crap out of Kirk, so there's that trade-off.

Yeah. Was that when Kirk tries to get Spock mad by calling him a "half-breed" and saying "your mother was a computer" and such?


Tom Scola - Feb 20, 2008 9:29:10 am PST #354 of 30001
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After "The Naked Time" (the spore episode) aired, Nimoy's fan mail abruptly went through the roof.

Prior to that episode, Spock was simply an emotionless alien. After that, his character was suddenly a lot more complicated.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2008 9:31:24 am PST #355 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Yeah. Was that when Kirk tries to get Spock mad by calling him a "half-breed" and saying "your mother was a computer" and such?

Yep. And that he should be in the freak show of a circus "right next to the dog-faced boy."


Dana - Feb 20, 2008 9:31:26 am PST #356 of 30001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

"The Naked Time" is a virus episode.

"This Side of Paradise" is the spore episode where Spock ends up cavorting in the sunshine.


tommyrot - Feb 20, 2008 9:32:55 am PST #357 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

After "The Naked Time" (the spore episode) aired, Nimoy's fan mail abruptly went through the roof.

Prior to that episode, Spock was simply an emotionless alien. After that, his character was suddenly a lot more complicated.

I've heard that, but I think it was a different episode. It was one where everyone on the ship became super emotional, and Spock is in his quarters trying to talk himself down, saying "I am in control of my emotions" and then crying.

Damn, I'm surprised at how difficult it is for me to recall specifics....

eta: X-posty. Dana remembers well the two episodes in question....


tommyrot - Feb 20, 2008 9:36:50 am PST #358 of 30001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My favorite insult of Spock was when McCoy (I think) calls him a "pointy-eared hobgoblin." What EP was that?


Frankenbuddha - Feb 20, 2008 9:37:47 am PST #359 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

It was one where everyone on the ship became super emotional, and Spock is in his quarters trying to talk himself down, saying "I am in control of my emotions" and then crying.

That's also the ep where we find out that Nurse Chappell has been pining for Spock.


§ ita § - Feb 20, 2008 9:38:17 am PST #360 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I loved The Naked Time. I'm still hanging onto it on my TiVo, wondering if I should buy it in iTunes. So far my keepers include The Menagerie, The Naked Time, and that one with the cloud people.

It's interesting--they could be complex, but man, they could be so damned hamfisted and internally contradictory.