I caught her on a park bench, making out with a *chaos* demon! Have you ever seen a chaos demon? They're all slime and antlers.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Juliebird - Jun 18, 2008 3:20:49 pm PDT #3058 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

pecan waffles.

I'm watching Bright Young Things, and who do I see? The actress who played Agatha Christie on DW (Fenella Woolgar). And what is her name on BYT? Agatha! /random


Ginger - Jun 18, 2008 5:09:52 pm PDT #3059 of 30001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

When I watched through B5 again, I particularly noticed how much G'Kar and Londo changed over the five years. When you go back to the beginning, they seem so innocent compared with what they became. Whatever its faults, I love my B5. I got the internet and cable because of B5.


Consuela - Jun 18, 2008 5:28:42 pm PDT #3060 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I loved B5, and it's fun to watch it again, but my god, the dialogue is painful. I'm on a ritual rewatch with a couple of friends, and despite not having seen most of it in ten years, I can predict many many of the lines, because JMS never met a cliche he didn't love. Argh.

Really, the man should just be a show-runner and leave the actual scripts to someone else.


Fiona - Jun 18, 2008 11:05:55 pm PDT #3061 of 30001

I'm watching Bright Young Things, and who do I see? The actress who played Agatha Christie on DW (Fenella Woolgar). And what is her name on BYT? Agatha! /random

David Tennant was also in BYT, and they've worked together on a couple of other things too. He recommended her for the part of Agatha Christie.


Juliebird - Jun 18, 2008 11:12:44 pm PDT #3062 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

David Tennant was also in BYT

Yup! Saw him and his horrendous mustache.


Fay - Jun 19, 2008 3:05:23 am PDT #3063 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

I think it telling of great story-telling as well as acting that the characters and relationships I liked most were between G'Kar and Londo. Those were two high-caliber actors, and maybe they got the better dialogue, or maybe they transcended it, I don't know, but those two especially ruled. Or maybe it was, yes, the given alien-ness of their costume that made what they had to say that much more acceptable.

Wordy McWordenstein.

...I was always a wee bit creeped out by Delenn's decision to have surgery (or whatever) in order to look more human. It made her look kind of freaky to me, when she acquired hair.


Toddson - Jun 19, 2008 4:20:15 am PDT #3064 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

sigh ... I had a real affection for B5. I think the two (G'kar and Londo, Katsulas and Jurasik) worked so well because they had each other to play off - they were well matched in their skill and experience, so each could work with the other's strength.

And the whole Delenn thing struck me as dumb and kind of pointless. I assumed it was because they wanted some kind of romantic storyline for her and how could a human feel love for a bald chick?


Strega - Jun 19, 2008 5:13:51 am PDT #3065 of 30001

I think it was more about biology than hair -- so they could have a child together. Which was probably more crucial in the original plan than it ended up being on the show, but so it goes. I'm almost positive that up until shooting she was going to be a male character and change sexes as well.

...I need to borrow the scriptbooks from my brother.


Sheryl - Jun 19, 2008 12:53:41 pm PDT #3066 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Strega, I think you're right. From what I've read Delenn was supposed to start out as male. They tried to do something with the voice in the pilot that didn't work so well, so when the series started the character was female.


Juliebird - Jun 19, 2008 12:55:52 pm PDT #3067 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Was the plan to have her start male, then change gender to be with Sheriden?