David Tennant was also in BYT
Yup! Saw him and his horrendous mustache.
Angel: I appreciate you guys looking out for Connor all summer. It's just—he's confused. He needs time. That's all. Fred: Right. Time, and some corporal punishment with a large heavy mallet. Not that I'm bitter.
'Just Rewards (2)'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.
Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.
Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.
This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.
Juliebird - Jun 18, 2008 11:12:44 pm PDT #3062 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Fay - Jun 19, 2008 3:05:23 am PDT #3063 of 30001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I think it telling of great story-telling as well as acting that the characters and relationships I liked most were between G'Kar and Londo. Those were two high-caliber actors, and maybe they got the better dialogue, or maybe they transcended it, I don't know, but those two especially ruled. Or maybe it was, yes, the given alien-ness of their costume that made what they had to say that much more acceptable.
Wordy McWordenstein.
...I was always a wee bit creeped out by Delenn's decision to have surgery (or whatever) in order to look more human. It made her look kind of freaky to me, when she acquired hair.
Toddson - Jun 19, 2008 4:20:15 am PDT #3064 of 30001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
sigh ... I had a real affection for B5. I think the two (G'kar and Londo, Katsulas and Jurasik) worked so well because they had each other to play off - they were well matched in their skill and experience, so each could work with the other's strength.
And the whole Delenn thing struck me as dumb and kind of pointless. I assumed it was because they wanted some kind of romantic storyline for her and how could a human feel love for a bald chick?
Strega - Jun 19, 2008 5:13:51 am PDT #3065 of 30001
I think it was more about biology than hair -- so they could have a child together. Which was probably more crucial in the original plan than it ended up being on the show, but so it goes. I'm almost positive that up until shooting she was going to be a male character and change sexes as well.
...I need to borrow the scriptbooks from my brother.
Sheryl - Jun 19, 2008 12:53:41 pm PDT #3066 of 30001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"
Strega, I think you're right. From what I've read Delenn was supposed to start out as male. They tried to do something with the voice in the pilot that didn't work so well, so when the series started the character was female.
Juliebird - Jun 19, 2008 12:55:52 pm PDT #3067 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
Was the plan to have her start male, then change gender to be with Sheriden?
Strega - Jun 19, 2008 2:07:39 pm PDT #3068 of 30001
Well, the original plan was that it would be Sinclair, but yes.
So the romantic scenes could have been much worse.
Tamara - Jun 19, 2008 3:28:02 pm PDT #3069 of 30001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Did anyone else notice that SciFi is now burning off Charlie Jade at 3 am on Monday mornings?
I watched the first two episodes and was going to hang around to see if the show gets better. Does it?
Juliebird - Jun 19, 2008 3:45:10 pm PDT #3070 of 30001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider
I watched the first two episodes and was going to hang around to see if the show gets better. Does it?
I had heard that after episode 8, when the show changed showrunners or somesuch, that if got better. I don't know if I can take the slow agony that was the first two eps for another six.
I thought it was also airing Friday nights at 8pm, did they move it?
Consuela - Jun 19, 2008 4:14:19 pm PDT #3071 of 30001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Charlie Jade is a very smart show with a lot of plot and fabulous production design and some dodgy gender dynamics and not much in the acting department.
The lead, in particular, is nowhere near strong enough to carry what they've given him.
Still, it's gorgeously shot, and it's complicated and twisty and intelligent.