Yep. It's just an inexplicable level of bad storytelling all around.
This is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet.
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Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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Susan W. - Apr 09, 2016 1:25:21 pm PDT #29459 of 30001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Steph L. - Apr 09, 2016 3:16:31 pm PDT #29460 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
Another thing that made me see red was Abby and Jenny's father turning out to know about the supernatural. So despite knowing the true state of affairs, he let his wife rot in an asylum until she died and his daughters be placed in foster care.
Wait, WHAT. Jesus, that is horrible. Nope, not gonna even finish the season.
I admit I'll probably go back and watch S1, because that was good stuff.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 09, 2016 4:56:57 pm PDT #29461 of 30001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
As far as I'm concerned, the good things this season were limited to Jenny and Joe becoming a couple, Pandora as the main antagonist, and Ichabod's new hairdo. (Tom Mison should keep that whether or not the show returns!)
Susan W. - Apr 09, 2016 5:29:40 pm PDT #29462 of 30001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
I wasn't even that much of a fan of Jenny and Joe, because it felt like they were taking screen time that could've been used for Crane and Abbie together. 20-20 hindsight, I can see that it was just another part of them trying to make it more of an ensemble show since they knew Nicole would be leaving. Of course, they had to go and kill Joe too, which ALSO made me angry.
FOX had better cancel that mess. I don't want to see its shuffling zombie remnant as I'm going about my business online next fall.
Speaking of 20-20 hindsight, I wish I'd stopped watching as soon as I found out that Orlando Jones had been pushed off the show rather than choosing to jump to different projects. That was just such a clear sign that TPTB hadn't really gotten the message with what went wrong in S2 and what elements and characters they needed to keep. Plus, he's outspoken and opinionated and likes to interact with fans...something a healthy show would value. I would so love to get him drunk at the bar at a con one of these days just to get all the behind-the-scenes dirt on how the show went so awry.
SailAweigh - Apr 09, 2016 5:53:38 pm PDT #29463 of 30001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
To lighten up the thread a little, because y'all seem like you could use some cheering up, have a pic of my happy place, today:
Jessica - Apr 09, 2016 6:42:48 pm PDT #29464 of 30001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I wasn't even that much of a fan of Jenny and Joe, because it felt like they were taking screen time that could've been used for Crane and Abbie together.
And, frankly, an excuse to add another white guy to the cast.
Steph L. - Apr 09, 2016 7:49:22 pm PDT #29465 of 30001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
they had to go and kill Joe too
Seriously? Man, fuck this show.
aurelia - Apr 09, 2016 8:18:46 pm PDT #29466 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
Oh, and apparently there's some kind of scene either right before she dies or with her ghost where she tells Crane that it was OK, that her role was to support him or help him transition to the modern world or something like that. Which...you turned the heroine of your show into a Magical Negro/Mammy trope?
That's an extreme interpretation. I'm not saying it's good or that you'd like it but it wasn't... that.
My response was WTF show? Then I thought there must be several contracts expiring.
Another thing that made me see red was Abby and Jenny's father turning out to know about the supernatural. So despite knowing the true state of affairs, he let his wife rot in an asylum until she died and his daughters be placed in foster care.
Yeah, that was messed up.
DCJensen - Apr 09, 2016 8:56:20 pm PDT #29467 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
When Abbie turned up in an otherworldly diner and talked to August Corbin, I half expected Michael Shanks to be in the diner as well.
Susan W. - Apr 10, 2016 5:49:34 am PDT #29468 of 30001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
That's an extreme interpretation. I'm not saying it's good or that you'd like it but it wasn't... that.
::nods:: I was paraphrasing how I'd heard it described on Tumblr, because no WAY am I ever going to watch that episode. It's bad enough having seen gifsets and people's attempts at fix-it fics where she still dies but Crane tells her he loves her or we see them reunited in the afterlife, because what I want to do is work through the stages of grief to some kind of denial-acceptance where I can convince myself S3 never happened and that Crane and Abbie won through their various tribulations and lived satisfactory and full lives before dying of old age, preferably at each other's side with their children and grandchildren there to say goodbye to them.
Sigh. WHY did I let myself get so invested in a show when I *KNEW* it had creative issues, to put it mildly? Damn it, the writers behind this debacle don't deserve the power I somehow gave them to make me cry!