they had to go and kill Joe too

Seriously? Man, fuck this show.

Oh, and apparently there's some kind of scene either right before she dies or with her ghost where she tells Crane that it was OK, that her role was to support him or help him transition to the modern world or something like that. Which...you turned the heroine of your show into a Magical Negro/Mammy trope?

That's an extreme interpretation. I'm not saying it's good or that you'd like it but it wasn't... that.

My response was WTF show? Then I thought there must be several contracts expiring.

Another thing that made me see red was Abby and Jenny's father turning out to know about the supernatural. So despite knowing the true state of affairs, he let his wife rot in an asylum until she died and his daughters be placed in foster care.

Yeah, that was messed up.

When Abbie turned up in an otherworldly diner and talked to August Corbin, I half expected Michael Shanks to be in the diner as well.

That's an extreme interpretation. I'm not saying it's good or that you'd like it but it wasn't... that.

::nods:: I was paraphrasing how I'd heard it described on Tumblr, because no WAY am I ever going to watch that episode. It's bad enough having seen gifsets and people's attempts at fix-it fics where she still dies but Crane tells her he loves her or we see them reunited in the afterlife, because what I want to do is work through the stages of grief to some kind of denial-acceptance where I can convince myself S3 never happened and that Crane and Abbie won through their various tribulations and lived satisfactory and full lives before dying of old age, preferably at each other's side with their children and grandchildren there to say goodbye to them.

Sigh. WHY did I let myself get so invested in a show when I *KNEW* it had creative issues, to put it mildly? Damn it, the writers behind this debacle don't deserve the power I somehow gave them to make me cry!

Ok, I watched it. That was utter bullshit, and I hope the show gets canceled so I won't feel tempted to torture myself by watching any more.

I need to go watch Buffy S5 again to make myself feel better.

there's some kind of scene either right before she dies or with her ghost where she tells Crane that it was OK, that her role was to support him or help him transition to the modern world or something like that

This, at least, did not happen. Tumblr gets carried away sometimes. She mostly just tells him that she's at peace and he should carry on without her.

Just watched Sleepy Hollow, and I didn't know it was the finale, and I didn't know they were killing Abbie. Unpleasant all around.

Interestingly, I'm seeing writers and creators of unrelated shows being pretty defensive on social media. I guess they worry that they're gonna get crap from fandom any time they do anything to a beloved character. And I understand that, and the whole weird interaction between shows and writers and fandoms.

But seriously, do the fucking math. Like that thing that went around Tumblr recently listing dead lesbian or bisexual characters and their causes of death.

Yeah, I think I need to step back a bit. Stay out of this thread a few days, try to stay off Tumblr and Twitter awhile too. At this point it's like poking at a scab that's not even close enough to healed to bear touching.

Eventually I'll be able to do a cool, measured analysis of how the show progressively failed its initial premise and promise, with lessons on what I and other writers should NOT do to our stories and characters. Right now it's all much too raw.

apparently Vikings killed 2 female characters this week and so did Empire, so it was a rough week on that front.

Oh no, did Vikings kill Lagertha?