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'Out Of Gas'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2014 7:40:38 am PDT #25245 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

On the other hand, I liked the intercut of Rachel's discussion with Ethan and her trashing her desk, but I think that was because I read it as Rachel being furious that her creators had so clearly decided her biological limitations, and taken away her opportunity to choose.

I was a little confused about what was going on there, but I did figure it was her reaction after Duncan had gone (confirmed by the writers). I do agree, however, that we haven't gotten enough about Rachel to make her reaction make sense. That reaction is characterization rather than an extension of her characterization.

the make-up department totally failed in creating Tony

It was disappointing what a half-assed job it seemed to be, compared to what they do for everyone else.

The whole "whatever, Helena's off being Helena" was weird too.

Also, in a typically well written show, I could not believe there was an exchange in which Duncan said something and then Mrs. S repeated what he had said with names as if the audience didn't know who the fuck he was talking about.


amyth - Jun 08, 2014 8:08:38 am PDT #25246 of 30001
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

I'm with you, -t.


-t - Jun 08, 2014 8:10:12 am PDT #25247 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Whew. I was ready to be the cheese that stands alone, but it is always nice to have company.


Amy - Jun 08, 2014 8:16:14 am PDT #25248 of 30001
Because books.

I didn't dislike it! I just felt like I could see behind the curtain for the first time, which was a little disappointing.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2014 9:13:37 am PDT #25249 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

As far as "Helena's off being Helena" I totally get it. This is the Sarah we met in the premiere. When she saw Helena being dragged off by the cops, my bet is she's thinking "good riddance", because she's gotten what she wants from the trip. If she knew Helena was going back to the farm, my bet is she might have had a whole other reaction.

I will say, if Tony is a one-off, I will be disappointed, but I can think of a bunch of reasons why Beth might have kept him so off her grid in terms of notes.

As far as the makeup goes, I'm not sure what else they would have done to indicate his gender in such a short space of time. Plus, I know plenty of men who were born as men who have even worse facial hair and insist on keeping it.


DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 12:52:05 pm PDT #25250 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think the issue is more that the beard appears to be ALL they did.


Amy - Jun 08, 2014 12:56:27 pm PDT #25251 of 30001
Because books.

The hair really didn't help. In that "Inside Look" they do toward the end of the show every week, they were talking about how a wig of short male hair wouldn't really fit over Tatiana's hair, so I guess there was no way around it, but still. Not good.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2014 2:14:29 pm PDT #25252 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Slicking back her hair into something resembling a DA would have solved a lot of the problems.


Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2014 2:18:27 pm PDT #25253 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

DA?


dcp - Jun 08, 2014 2:53:28 pm PDT #25254 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Short for Duck's Ass.