Yesterday, my life's like, 'Uh-oh, pop quiz!' Today it's like, 'rain of toads.'

Xander ,'Beneath You'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 5:07:56 pm PDT #25255 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think I would have suggested a bandana and braid. Go for the biker dude look.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2014 3:44:01 am PDT #25256 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was just listening to a rerun of the Fresh Air interview with Jenji Cohan about Orange is the New Black, and was reminded that Laverne Cox has an identical twin brother! So at least that's a thing that could happen in the real world.

But yeah, Tony's look could have been more on point. But I dug the character as a thing -- the line about his having dealt with issues of identity years ago was cool, I thought.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2014 3:56:59 am PDT #25257 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But I dug the character as a thing -- the line about his having dealt with issues of identity years ago was cool, I thought.

I liked that too. Like, clone, huh? Okay, let me add that to the list of Thing I Have Come To Terms With In My Life.

I did think they could have done a better job with the makeup, and also just in defining his character by something other than gender. (Although on the other hand, it's kind neat that the guy is the one in that situation? When usually on TV/movies, we get Sports Dude, Science Dude, Handsome Dude, Etc Dude, and The Girl.)


Jesse - Jun 09, 2014 4:00:10 am PDT #25258 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Although on the other hand, it's kind neat that the guy is the one in that situation?

Definitely a favorite thing about this show.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2014 4:00:16 am PDT #25259 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And even if this is the last we see of Tony, it will have been worth it just for Felix's "Holy Tilda Swinton" moment.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2014 4:30:28 am PDT #25260 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

TRUTH.


-t - Jun 09, 2014 4:44:06 am PDT #25261 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

No kidding.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2014 5:14:48 am PDT #25262 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I have two major beefs with that AVC review.

Dyad doesn’t know about him because “there was a mistake at the I.V.F. clinic.”

Wrong wrong wrong. Dyad were the ones who made the switch at the IVF clinic. That's how they were able to assign him a monitor. Duh.

We don't really know why Beth kept him a secret from Cosima and Allison, but Beth did a lot of weird secretive shit, like they all do.

A trans clone is also an intriguing concept if only because it highlights the show’s continued dance around “nature vs. nurture.” If it decides that queer Cosima and Tony do have the exact same genes as the rest of the cisgender/heterosexual clones, it’s coming down on the side of “nurture.”

Also wrong.- DNA is not the only thing "nature" puts into the equation. Uterine environment is a HUGE factor in embryonic development.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 09, 2014 5:22:30 am PDT #25263 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And even if this is the last we see of Tony, it will have been worth it just for Felix's "Holy Tilda Swinton" moment.

I'm gonna rewatch the episode just for that moment.


§ ita § - Jun 09, 2014 8:22:06 am PDT #25264 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm not sure why Crossbones would belong here. Messing up invention timelines doesn't make AU, really.

I'm the one who argued Person of Interest belongs here, so I've clung to some narrow threads, but this seems like standard historical mishmash.