I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon  

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2014 9:13:37 am PDT #25249 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

As far as "Helena's off being Helena" I totally get it. This is the Sarah we met in the premiere. When she saw Helena being dragged off by the cops, my bet is she's thinking "good riddance", because she's gotten what she wants from the trip. If she knew Helena was going back to the farm, my bet is she might have had a whole other reaction.

I will say, if Tony is a one-off, I will be disappointed, but I can think of a bunch of reasons why Beth might have kept him so off her grid in terms of notes.

As far as the makeup goes, I'm not sure what else they would have done to indicate his gender in such a short space of time. Plus, I know plenty of men who were born as men who have even worse facial hair and insist on keeping it.


DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 12:52:05 pm PDT #25250 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think the issue is more that the beard appears to be ALL they did.


Amy - Jun 08, 2014 12:56:27 pm PDT #25251 of 30001
Because books.

The hair really didn't help. In that "Inside Look" they do toward the end of the show every week, they were talking about how a wig of short male hair wouldn't really fit over Tatiana's hair, so I guess there was no way around it, but still. Not good.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 08, 2014 2:14:29 pm PDT #25252 of 30001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Slicking back her hair into something resembling a DA would have solved a lot of the problems.


Polter-Cow - Jun 08, 2014 2:18:27 pm PDT #25253 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

DA?


dcp - Jun 08, 2014 2:53:28 pm PDT #25254 of 30001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Short for Duck's Ass.


DebetEsse - Jun 08, 2014 5:07:56 pm PDT #25255 of 30001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I think I would have suggested a bandana and braid. Go for the biker dude look.


Jesse - Jun 09, 2014 3:44:01 am PDT #25256 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I was just listening to a rerun of the Fresh Air interview with Jenji Cohan about Orange is the New Black, and was reminded that Laverne Cox has an identical twin brother! So at least that's a thing that could happen in the real world.

But yeah, Tony's look could have been more on point. But I dug the character as a thing -- the line about his having dealt with issues of identity years ago was cool, I thought.


Jessica - Jun 09, 2014 3:56:59 am PDT #25257 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But I dug the character as a thing -- the line about his having dealt with issues of identity years ago was cool, I thought.

I liked that too. Like, clone, huh? Okay, let me add that to the list of Thing I Have Come To Terms With In My Life.

I did think they could have done a better job with the makeup, and also just in defining his character by something other than gender. (Although on the other hand, it's kind neat that the guy is the one in that situation? When usually on TV/movies, we get Sports Dude, Science Dude, Handsome Dude, Etc Dude, and The Girl.)


Jesse - Jun 09, 2014 4:00:10 am PDT #25258 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Although on the other hand, it's kind neat that the guy is the one in that situation?

Definitely a favorite thing about this show.