I brought up your idea of Peter being in the right place "I read on another site..." and Mark responded. I wish I could link here, but I thought that it would be best to be circumspect for now.
I am not having sex with Spike! But I'm starting to think that you might be.
Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'
Boxed Set, Vol. V: Just a Hint of Denial and a Dash of Retcon
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DCJensen - Feb 11, 2012 5:16:34 am PST #19328 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
le nubian - Feb 11, 2012 5:33:38 am PST #19329 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
BTW, it isn't just Olivia who is "remembering" things. Rather, I am not sure she is remembering as much as she is becoming the original Olivia.
Walter is doing the same thing. I think they are purposefully trying to indicate that they are becoming different people (perhaps along with remembering their original lives).
DCJensen - Feb 11, 2012 6:25:56 am PST #19330 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Someone just replied that, "When he was gone the evil queen placed a spell on this universe and now they don't remember who they are."
DCJensen - Feb 11, 2012 6:26:46 am PST #19331 of 30001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Grimm:
Amy Acker!
Also, the opening was very Buffy.
Theodosia - Feb 11, 2012 6:36:09 am PST #19332 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I have to catch up with Grimm online. Why the Forces of Evil have conspired to put three of my favorite shows on at the same time on the same night is frustrating.
§ ita § - Feb 11, 2012 6:45:35 am PST #19333 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'm not opposed to new versions, but I don't want to lose the ones we have.
I do. I had the same assumptions many of you did, that what Peter needed to do was to fix where he was, not leave it. But I shifted my opinions when the show did, and now I really want the other versions back, and for these people not to get subsumed into what we were familiar with. I'd like for them to be their own thing, even if they stop existing.
aurelia - Feb 11, 2012 7:38:48 am PST #19334 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I should've said I don't want to lose the ones we've had. I do want to get back to the original characters. I thought P-C was saying that we'll end up with a merge of Olivia/Fauxlivia, Walter/Walternate, Astrid/Altstrid, etc.
Walter is doing the same thing. I think they are purposefully trying to indicate that they are becoming different people (perhaps along with remembering their original lives).
I can kind of see that. I still wonder what happens with the people for whom the vital statistics changed when Peter didn't exist.
Someone just replied that, "When he was gone the evil queen placed a spell on this universe and now they don't remember who they are."
Heh. Baby Henry exists! He's just on the wrong show!
Polter-Cow - Feb 11, 2012 7:42:31 am PST #19335 of 30001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I thought P-C was saying that we'll end up with a merge of Olivia/Fauxlivia, Walter/Walternate, Astrid/Altstrid, etc.
That is what I was saying, yes. I thought we were going to merge the two universes at the end of last season too, though. So I don't know.
aurelia - Feb 11, 2012 7:49:14 am PST #19336 of 30001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I thought it was possible then, but I don't want to go there now.
JenP - Feb 11, 2012 8:22:32 am PST #19337 of 30001
I'm pretty sure I first thought it was the same two universes, but changed because of no Peter. Then I bought what Peter was saying - that he had to get back to a different universe, his. And now I think it really is the same two universes, but changed because of no Peter.... and now changing because of yes Peter. But I don't know that I think it will change completely back, because how and why. And the creators are so much more creative than I am that I'm sure it'll turn out differently than anything I come up with. I love this show.
I do think Walter is interesting -- he's clearly becoming more like our original Walter, but is that because our original Walter is bleeding in, or because Peter is just having a positive influence the way he did with original Walter?
And then there's Olivia, and who knows.
ETA: No, actually, maybe I think that Olivia's being messed with (and not necessarily because Peter's presence is changing anything on a grand scale) is why she's having life with Peter flashbacks.... but how?