I'm not opposed to new versions, but I don't want to lose the ones we have.

I do. I had the same assumptions many of you did, that what Peter needed to do was to fix where he was, not leave it. But I shifted my opinions when the show did, and now I really want the other versions back, and for these people not to get subsumed into what we were familiar with. I'd like for them to be their own thing, even if they stop existing.

I should've said I don't want to lose the ones we've had. I do want to get back to the original characters. I thought P-C was saying that we'll end up with a merge of Olivia/Fauxlivia, Walter/Walternate, Astrid/Altstrid, etc.

Walter is doing the same thing. I think they are purposefully trying to indicate that they are becoming different people (perhaps along with remembering their original lives).

I can kind of see that. I still wonder what happens with the people for whom the vital statistics changed when Peter didn't exist.

Someone just replied that, "When he was gone the evil queen placed a spell on this universe and now they don't remember who they are."

Heh. Baby Henry exists! He's just on the wrong show!

I thought P-C was saying that we'll end up with a merge of Olivia/Fauxlivia, Walter/Walternate, Astrid/Altstrid, etc.

That is what I was saying, yes. I thought we were going to merge the two universes at the end of last season too, though. So I don't know.

I thought it was possible then, but I don't want to go there now.

I'm pretty sure I first thought it was the same two universes, but changed because of no Peter. Then I bought what Peter was saying - that he had to get back to a different universe, his. And now I think it really is the same two universes, but changed because of no Peter.... and now changing because of yes Peter. But I don't know that I think it will change completely back, because how and why. And the creators are so much more creative than I am that I'm sure it'll turn out differently than anything I come up with. I love this show.

I do think Walter is interesting -- he's clearly becoming more like our original Walter, but is that because our original Walter is bleeding in, or because Peter is just having a positive influence the way he did with original Walter?

And then there's Olivia, and who knows.

ETA: No, actually, maybe I think that Olivia's being messed with (and not necessarily because Peter's presence is changing anything on a grand scale) is why she's having life with Peter flashbacks.... but how?

Maybe it's Nina's doing?

If it's intentional, that raises more questions...

For some reason it is now important to me that we leave this universe behind. I didn't realise it until I read someone saying that if we never see them again, this was all a waste of time, and I just disagreed so strongly. Firstly, I think a good story is a good story, so that can be enjoyable in and of itself. Secondly, I think tracing the arc of how Peter's affected these new people is perfectly valid, even if we don't stick with it forever.

I feel like we will end up with our original people, the ones we started with. No idea how, though. But maybe they'll subvert all that.

Yeah, but are there fish in Reiden lake?

Heh.